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Re: Kerbs and Karting
Posted by 'SimonS' on 02 Jun 2014 @ 14:52


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"Therefore I agree a clear definition of what is a kerb is valuable but until we have a rule on what we can use the whole thing is pointless."

Oh, I agree entirely, and I don't really have a particular axe to grind here. One can see how the various good intentions over the years have been eroded until they are unenforceable or simply nonsense.

I was hoping that someone (itpro?) with a clear idea and strong feelings on the problem could come up with a solution that was not only clear on the limits of the track but also realistic about the treatment of those who exceed the limits, accidentally and deliberately.

The IKR solution (the judge's decision is FINAL) can work well where the judge's preferences are known, but is less reliable when the judge isn't known to some drivers.

The CoC briefing on perceived danger seems to work at Dunkeswell, for a given CoC.

The problem for the MSA is probably the difficulty of defining both 'the crime' and the range of punishments in a way that is fair to all drivers and all vehicles, both the novice who is there by accident and the professional who thinks that it gains a particular advantage and for karts as well as trucks.

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Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (28 May 2014 @ 16:51)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:01)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'raceinstructor'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:03)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:06)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:11)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'raceinstructor'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:15)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:24)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:32)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (28 May 2014 @ 22:27)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BilandRacer9'   (28 May 2014 @ 17:33)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (28 May 2014 @ 19:23)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 19:27)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (28 May 2014 @ 19:45)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 19:50)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (28 May 2014 @ 20:00)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BilandRacer9'   (29 May 2014 @ 1:54)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (28 May 2014 @ 20:13)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (28 May 2014 @ 22:08)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 22:32)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'buzzinrussell'   (28 May 2014 @ 22:41)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'MaxRacewear'   (28 May 2014 @ 22:59)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 23:25)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (28 May 2014 @ 23:22)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (28 May 2014 @ 23:34)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'rollover'   (29 May 2014 @ 8:25)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'MaxRacewear'   (29 May 2014 @ 8:56)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'd-i-y71'   (29 May 2014 @ 9:12)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (29 May 2014 @ 10:41)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BilandRacer9'   (29 May 2014 @ 10:50)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (29 May 2014 @ 11:01)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (29 May 2014 @ 12:09)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'd-i-y71'   (29 May 2014 @ 11:59)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (29 May 2014 @ 12:11)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'Flagman52'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 11:06)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 11:12)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 11:37)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'd-i-y71'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 13:02)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 13:46)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'd-i-y71'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 15:01)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 15:39)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 12:45)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 16:53)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (03 Jun 2014 @ 10:25)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'Swampy'   (29 May 2014 @ 12:31)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'MaxRacewear'   (29 May 2014 @ 13:00)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (29 May 2014 @ 13:37)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (29 May 2014 @ 14:26)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (29 May 2014 @ 16:55)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (29 May 2014 @ 17:07)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (29 May 2014 @ 17:29)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (29 May 2014 @ 22:26)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (30 May 2014 @ 1:21)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PaulMRotax'   (30 May 2014 @ 6:26)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'Graham S'   (29 May 2014 @ 22:30)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (29 May 2014 @ 23:07)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BilandRacer9'   (29 May 2014 @ 23:22)
Graham S  by 'christkm'   (30 May 2014 @ 7:30)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'd-i-y71'   (30 May 2014 @ 10:25)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SLK'   (30 May 2014 @ 15:04)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'moondog78'   (30 May 2014 @ 7:52)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'iant'   (30 May 2014 @ 13:57)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (30 May 2014 @ 15:43)
okay  by 'PeterCliff'   (30 May 2014 @ 15:55)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PaulMRotax'   (30 May 2014 @ 16:37)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (30 May 2014 @ 17:15)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'Graham S'   (30 May 2014 @ 17:48)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (30 May 2014 @ 18:13)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (30 May 2014 @ 19:09)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'SimonS'   (30 May 2014 @ 21:37)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (31 May 2014 @ 1:55)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'christkm'   (31 May 2014 @ 7:08)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 May 2014 @ 7:30)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PeterCliff'   (31 May 2014 @ 11:34)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (31 May 2014 @ 18:33)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 May 2014 @ 20:24)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (01 Jun 2014 @ 2:26)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'Aquila'   (01 Jun 2014 @ 7:24)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'BilandRacer9'   (01 Jun 2014 @ 22:35)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 0:13)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'John'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 15:23)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'PeterCliff'   (02 Jun 2014 @ 19:13)
Re: Kerbs and Karting  by 'itpro'   (03 Jun 2014 @ 0:37)

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