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Re: A nice easy question
Posted by 'QuickOldTimer' on 18 May 2010 @ 18:28


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"It's now up to you to explain how DRINK causes road deaths when, using the SAME arguments, I could not IDENTICALLY prove that SPEED causes accidents. Do NOT make simple bold statements like 'speed doesn't kill'.... and 'drink kills' explain HOW those two differ."

Ok.......Rural road, 40mph limit, has a 1/4mile straight then a 90deg bend. Along comes driver A at 60mph down the straight and goes round the bend at 60mph, no problems. Along comes driver B (in the same type of car), but at 80mph. Down the straight, tries to take the corner at 80mph, flies off the road and kills himself. He died because he mis-judged the cornering speed, not because he was exceeding the speed limit; as proved by driver A getting round it illegally at 60mph! Drivers C, D & E have been drinking & are over the DD limit but all negotiate the road ok at 60mph. Driver F arrives, also over the DD limit, at 60mph, but misjudges the corner, turns in too sharply, and crashes with fatal results. The fact that Driver A got round above the limit proves that exceeding the limit was not why driver B died, but the fact that drivers C,D,& E got round it ok does NOT prove that being over the DD limit was not the reason for driver F's misjudgement!
NOW DO YOU GET IT !!

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The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'Doink'   (14 May 2010 @ 19:57)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'Newshound'   (14 May 2010 @ 20:20)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'Traxtar'   (14 May 2010 @ 20:35)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (14 May 2010 @ 22:12)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'Traxtar'   (14 May 2010 @ 22:43)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'itpro'   (15 May 2010 @ 1:03)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'Doink'   (15 May 2010 @ 8:19)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 May 2010 @ 10:31)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'itpro'   (15 May 2010 @ 20:00)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 May 2010 @ 21:34)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'itpro'   (16 May 2010 @ 1:05)
Re: The end of the speed camera is nigh........  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (16 May 2010 @ 9:05)
Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras !  by 'Trev'   (15 May 2010 @ 15:40)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Trev'   (15 May 2010 @ 15:41)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'RoadRat'   (15 May 2010 @ 17:26)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Doink'   (15 May 2010 @ 18:43)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (15 May 2010 @ 20:03)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 May 2010 @ 21:25)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'kudos'   (15 May 2010 @ 23:31)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (15 May 2010 @ 23:59)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (16 May 2010 @ 1:03)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (16 May 2010 @ 9:13)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Shanny'   (16 May 2010 @ 11:30)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Ballhatchet'   (16 May 2010 @ 19:15)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Bod'   (16 May 2010 @ 21:29)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'kudos'   (16 May 2010 @ 23:00)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (16 May 2010 @ 23:05)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 11:23)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (17 May 2010 @ 14:04)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 17:26)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (17 May 2010 @ 17:47)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 18:47)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (17 May 2010 @ 19:56)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 20:22)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (17 May 2010 @ 20:39)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 9:49)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras..  by 'Doink'   (17 May 2010 @ 21:33)
Building the infrastructure for a Tyranny!!  by 'RotaxTim'   (17 May 2010 @ 15:02)
Re: Building the infrastructure for a Tyranny!!  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 18:31)
Re: Building the infrastructure for a Tyranny!!  by 'RotaxTim'   (17 May 2010 @ 18:45)
Re: Building the infrastructure for a Tyranny!!  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 20:14)
QOT  by 'Bod'   (18 May 2010 @ 14:52)
Kudos  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 11:12)
Bod..... what utter TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 10:59)
Re: Itpro....  by 'Doink'   (17 May 2010 @ 19:28)
Doink.....  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 20:42)
Re: Itpro......  by 'Doink'   (17 May 2010 @ 21:06)
Re: Itpro......  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 10:02)
Re: Itpro......  by 'davidmc'   (18 May 2010 @ 12:38)
Unfortunately speed cameras dont work....  by 'alanrr'   (18 May 2010 @ 15:28)
Re: Unfortunately speed cameras dont work....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (18 May 2010 @ 17:52)
Re: Itpro......  by 'Doink'   (18 May 2010 @ 18:28)
Re: Itpro......  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 20:40)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (17 May 2010 @ 10:46)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 May 2010 @ 21:22)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'kudos'   (17 May 2010 @ 22:40)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'Doink'   (17 May 2010 @ 22:55)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'kudos'   (17 May 2010 @ 23:38)
A nice easy question  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 11:48)
Re: A nice easy question  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (18 May 2010 @ 14:04)
Re: A nice easy question  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 16:49)
Re: A nice easy question  by 'QuickOldTimer'  << You are here!
Re: A nice easy question  by 'itpro'   (19 May 2010 @ 16:07)
Re: A nice easy question  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (19 May 2010 @ 16:39)
Re: A nice easy question  by 'itpro'   (03 Jun 2010 @ 11:58)
Re: Tories to bring in more Cats Eye Cameras  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 10:05)
Itpro  by 'Bod'   (18 May 2010 @ 14:56)
Re: Itpro  by 'itpro'   (18 May 2010 @ 18:28)
Re: Itpro  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (18 May 2010 @ 20:26)
Re: Itpro  by 'itpro'   (19 May 2010 @ 13:25)
Re: Itpro  by 'Bod'   (18 May 2010 @ 22:06)
Re: Itpro  by 'itpro'   (19 May 2010 @ 13:30)
Re: Itpro  by 'Bod'   (19 May 2010 @ 16:28)
Re: Itpro  by 'Doink'   (20 May 2010 @ 18:06)
Re: Itpro  by 'Doink'   (22 May 2010 @ 7:52)

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