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Posted by 'davidmc' on 16 Apr 2009 @ 20:43


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davidmc
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No I'm not.

Your statistics, by your interpretation, say two things:

1) That at any one time, 50% of motorists are speeding.

2) That 13% of fatal accidents are attributed to speeding (or caused by someone currently speeding, I'm not sure which one you're arguing but it's largely irrelevant)

These are two pieces of discrete information. It is perfectly possible for ALL 87% of the other fatal accidents to be caused by those who speed, even if they are not speeding at the time. It's also perfectly possible (whilst maintaining the same stats) that just one person is responsible for those 13% of fatalities

You don't have the information required to draw the inferences you did in exactly the same way that I don't have the information to draw the inferences I did and that Tangler doesn't have the required information to draw the inferences he did.

However, what we can say, without any shadow of a doubt is that 13% of fatal accidents are attributed to speeding and a sizeable portion of the population speed. Moreover, the statistics really are irrelevant to the heart of the discussion; should there or should there not be speed limits?

Dave

Message Thread:

Speed limits  by 'MarkW'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 3:19)
Re: Speed limits  by 'Latestarter'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 6:53)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)
Re: Speed limits  by 'mobilechicane'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 10:33)
Re: Speed limits  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 11:44)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DBaldwin'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:16)
Re: Speed limits  by 'michaelg36'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 12:36)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:00)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 17:02)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 20:41)
Re: Speed limits  by 'kudos'   (12 Apr 2009 @ 22:19)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 0:17)
Re: Speed limits  by 'ChrisAdams'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 2:00)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 8:07)
Re: Speed limits  by 'JohnClucas'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:18)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: I don't want to re-run the argument again  by 'JohnClucas'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 12:46)
Re: Speed limits  by 'harvinsurrey'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:26)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 9:42)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DBaldwin'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 10:07)
Re: Speed limits  by 'HC64'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:03)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 11:49)
Re: Speed limits  by 'ChrisAdams'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 13:32)
Re: Speed limits  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 10:55)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 11:33)
Re: Sorry david but it certainly does  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:25)
Re: Speed limits and cameras  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 16:42)
Re: Speed limits and cameras  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:29)
Re: No Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:34)
can you post the link?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 17:38)
Re: Give me strength  by 'JohnClucas'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 19:31)
You don't have the figures do you John...  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 23:58)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'JohnClucas'   (15 Apr 2009 @ 20:54)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'Avago'   (15 Apr 2009 @ 22:36)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 1:45)
Re: Avago Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 8:04)
Re: John  by 'davidmc'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 9:41)
..trying to make it simple.  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: David  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:43)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 14:54)
Re: John  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: sorry David  by 'JohnClucas'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:02)
John, stop making conclusions you can't make  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Apr 2009 @ 22:44)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'davidmc'   (17 Apr 2009 @ 0:27)
Re:straws get thinner by the moment  by 'JohnClucas'   (17 Apr 2009 @ 19:22)
Re: Eyesight problem, brain fade or just idle?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (17 Apr 2009 @ 23:38)
Dan & John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (18 Apr 2009 @ 10:06)
Re: convenient misinterpretation of the figures  by 'JohnClucas'   (18 Apr 2009 @ 20:44)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:14)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (13 Apr 2009 @ 22:20)
Re: Speed limits  by 'davidmc'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 8:32)
Re: Speed limits  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (14 Apr 2009 @ 9:00)

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