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Re: bias-proof future assessments!
Posted by 'davidmc' on 07 Nov 2008 @ 11:24


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I haven't read up much on historic global temperature estimate methods, but:

Surely, any methods which rely on geological processes and markers to estimate temperature are going to show a significant "flattening" of the peaks and troughs. A quick scan of wikipedia shows the "current" ice age to have started 2.58 million years ago, with glacials occuring on 40,000 and 100,000 year cycles. I doubt very much that temperature estimate methods that cover such large periods of time can show variations accurately to within 1,000 years, yet alone 100 years.

Perhaps, had we directly measured global temperature 100,000 years ago (or 1 million etc), we'd be seeing equally great variations in temperature that we've seen in the last 100-150 years. Perhaps we also need to ask what we consider to be "normal" climatic conditions.

I think it's fair to say that whilst there is consensus amongst climatologists regarding climate change, our level of understanding of the climate is still very much in its infancy.

Dave

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bias-proof future assessments!  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 9:47)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 9:53)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 10:27)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'itpro'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 10:11)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'Tmoon'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 10:51)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 11:50)
Re: bias-proof future assessments!  by 'itpro'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 12:21)
Re: bias-proof future assessments ...continued  by 'itpro'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 12:23)
Re: bias-proof future assessments ...continued  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 12:55)
Re: bias-proof future assessments ...continued  by 'itpro'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: bias-proof future assessments ...continued  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 13:48)
nucular testing  by 'Tmoon'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 15:18)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)
Re: nucular testing  by 'singers'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 16:14)
Re: nucular testing  by 'Tmoon'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 17:17)
Re: nucular testing  by 'davidmc'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 17:06)
Re: nucular testing  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Nov 2008 @ 17:47)
more evidence  by 'singers'   (08 Nov 2008 @ 11:54)
Re: more evidence  by 'Tmoon'   (08 Nov 2008 @ 15:30)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 13:22)
Re: nucular testing  by 'RoadRat'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 14:20)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: nucular testing  by 'RoadRat'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)
Hold the front page!  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 20:05)
Re: Hold the front page!  by 'RoadRat'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 20:45)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 20:56)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 20:58)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 1:31)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 2:26)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:08)
By the way! The word is NUCLEAR!!!!  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:31)
Re: By the way! The word is NUCLEAR!!!!  by 'richpudd2003'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 17:35)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)
Re: nucular testing  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:35)
Re: nucular testing  by 'richpudd2003'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:57)
Re: nucular testing  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 17:02)
I think this has proved the point  by 'Canceric'   (08 Nov 2008 @ 22:07)
Re: I think this has proved the point  by 'itpro'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)
Ian ...you are like a religeous fanatic..  by 'Chad'   (11 Nov 2008 @ 22:52)
Re: Ian ...you are like a religeous fanatic..  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 1:29)
Ian .go and buy a large mirror ...  by 'Chad'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 5:46)
alternative  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 9:56)
Tmoon  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:26)
Re: Tmoon  by 'davidmc'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:41)
David  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 11:47)
Re: Itpro  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 17:00)
RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (14 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)
ITPRO  by 'RoadRat'   (14 Nov 2008 @ 10:17)
Re: ITPRO  by 'itpro'   (14 Nov 2008 @ 10:25)
Re: Ian .go and buy a large mirror ...  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:10)
Sticks and stones ...  by 'Chad'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:16)
That DID make me laugh.....  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)
cent spill for shot  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 11:17)
concider this  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:08)
try this link  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)
Re: concider this  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:31)
Re: cent spill for shot  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:13)
spilling betta now  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:27)
Re: spilling betta now  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 12:37)
Re: spilling betta now  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)
this is the link I wanted post  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:20)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:26)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'itpro'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 14:53)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'Tmoon'   (12 Nov 2008 @ 17:51)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'itpro'   (13 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'Tmoon'   (13 Nov 2008 @ 19:17)
Re: this is the link I wanted post  by 'itpro'   (14 Nov 2008 @ 2:08)

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