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Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!
Posted by 'DavyBoy' on 06 Oct 2008 @ 14:15


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OK, now I think we're getting somewhere. You do agree that :

o The climate is changing and always has been.

o There is NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF to connect human behaviour with a changing climate.

Now, the next question is whether we BELIEVE that there is a connection between human behaviour and climate change.

I agree that there is a substantial body of work among the scientific community to help convince us of this connection but it relies on belief. I agree too that there are many other generally accepted situations in life today that rely on belief and we quite happily go about our business accepting these as they cause minimal impact on us or around us.

However, when acting on belief has the potential to create a cataclysmic outcome for our fellow human beings, one has the right to put the brakes on and demand more than just theories.

Hitler had a certain beliefs about the human race. Many people at the time agreed with him. There was no scientific proof to back up his theories. He then decided to act on those beliefs and the consequences are well documented. That's a little over 60 years ago and we need to ensure that such a scenario is never repeated.

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Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:07)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'Booney'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:57)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 22:58)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DevonHawker'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:14)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:34)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:33)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 14:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:52)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 16:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest. Booney  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:30)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'itpro'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 0:38)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'NikG'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 7:59)
Nik  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:04)
Re: Nik  by 'NikG'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 8:29)
Re: Nik  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:36)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'cobb22'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 8:11)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'Hootsman'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:24)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest: Cobb!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:08)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest: Cobb!  by 'cobb22'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 21:29)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'rmax'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:34)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DavyBoy'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:11)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DevonHawker'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:20)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:19)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 7:46)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:41)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 8:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:50)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:54)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:51)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:02)
No wonder were all confused........  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:44)
Re: No wonder were all confused........  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:10)
Blob...  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Blob...  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:31)
Now we are getting somewhere!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:20)
Re: Now we are getting somewhere!  by 'davidmc'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'  << You are here!
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:40)
Let's move off this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 17:00)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 19:43)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 19:59)
A thousand to 1 or better?  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:00)
I'll take that bet!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 21:55)
Re: A thousand to 1 or better?  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 0:51)
Monty Python...............................  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 8:35)
Re.Rat......  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:29)
Is Vic there ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:55)
No one expects the Climate Change Inquisition  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:52)
Re: No one expects the Climate Change Inquisition  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Monty Python...............................  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:22)
Re: Monty Python...............................  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:45)
Oh dear....One phrase says it all.......  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Vic..... another classic  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:05)
Ian.....It was Eritosthanes (sp!)....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:30)
Re: Ian.....It was Eritosthanes (sp!)....  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:14)
aCLASSIC, And my last word to you!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:49)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 1:07)
Prevarication  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:14)
Re: Prevarication........you said it!  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:39)
Sadly, Vic....... they will do EXACTLY that!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:20)
Re: Sadly, Vic....... they will do EXACTLY that!  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:58)
Please.....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 21:09)
Re: Please.....  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 21:53)
Time's running out!...  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 6:20)
Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 8:39)
What's that got to do with it ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 9:10)
Well, you brought it up........  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 10:15)
I don't believe I did !  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 11:53)
OK...  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 12:51)
Not OK... I'm DavyBoy... not davidmc !  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Davy......  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:27)
Yup..sorry....  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 10:39)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:46)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 17:05)
The undeniable proof of Global Warming!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:30)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:45)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 20:48)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 1:00)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 9:00)
As an engineer myself...  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:55)
David  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:05)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:14)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:21)
Re: Prevarication, tripe!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Prevarication, tripe... exactly !  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:46)
Nice try..... but a failure!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:37)
Re: Yes... but a failure of what ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: Yes... but a failure of what ?  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:24)
I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:31)
Re: I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:09)
Re: I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:08)
Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:27)
Where's the proof.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 18:14)
Re: Where's the proof.  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:01)
Re: Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 22:04)
Re: Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:17)
Its not about 'belief'..  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:54)
Vic  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:16)
What vanity  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:39)
Re: What vanity  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:04)
It's all about belief and incidentally proof......  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:56)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:09)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:18)
Well.....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:12)
Re: Its EXACTLY about 'belief'....  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:00)
Re: Its not about 'belief'..  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 22:25)
Re: Its not about 'belief'..  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Arrogance of your arguments  by 'RoadRat'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Arrogance of YOUR arguments  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:31)
Ah...something I can agree with  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 20:35)

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