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Re: abkc!!!!!!!
Posted by 'SimonS' on 06 Dec 2008 @ 09:29


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The problem with turning up to any AGM with a 'good idea' is that you run into the ideas that are already entrenched.

The committee who control the AGM are convinced that theirs is the right way and it can be almost impossible to overturn that committee because it is packed with 'friends' or like thinkers.

So, you have to turn up with a load of supporters and hope that the committee hasn't heard what you are doing and don't take their own action in return.

Another problem with committees is that they become moribund, resistant to change and bound into their own ideas or tradition. It's particularly difficult when there is a vested interest at hand too.

Lastly, of course, a particular good idea is only a good idea to a very few people. The vast majority of people haven't been asked or haven't been given the right information.

So, while it may be true that there are places in the world where you can buy a box of tyres for £X, it doesn't hold that the importer is actually making a big profit when you have to buy a set of tyres for £X+Y at the track.

Or that, if you cut down those costs, suddenly there isn't a trader at the track when you want one, because the business is no longer in profit.

(So I can see that a side effect of shifting to harder tyres, less sales might be a rise in the price of tyres to compensate for the loss in volume.).

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'Dandino'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)
REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES  by 'michaelg36'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)
Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt)  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'PGB'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'buzzinrussell'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)
abkc!!!!!!!  by 'colin'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)
I can see why you think these solutions John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40)
I think you have a point, however this is not.....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Trev'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)
Back to the original debate,  by 'RichyC'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'chriskasch'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)
This board is not an abkc forum!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)
What a load of rubbish!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)
The ABkC is hardly rife with politics!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)
Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)
Re: Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'Zoesdad'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)
Limitations of clubs SRs  by 'Zoesdad'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'paulklaassen'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Tbag'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 6:51)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)
That's not fair John!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)
Re: That's not fair John!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Bloody hell!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)
Re: Bloody hell!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
Oy!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)
Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'Zoesdad'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)
When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)
Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests  by 'iant'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)
As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by..  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)
Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called  by 'KevinW'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)
I hope you're right and history is wrong!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Tyro  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)
Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will.  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)
Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)
They were doing that long before any recession!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)
Re: They were doing that long before any recession  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)
No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)
Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)
I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)
Nice try John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Nice try John!  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)
John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly.......  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly...  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)
I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve....  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Graham's pointed out a good solution!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)
Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)
I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)
You give up too easy John!  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)
Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)
Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)
I think that's word for word what........  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: I think that's word for word what........  by 'alanrr'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what......  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what.....  by 'alanrr'   (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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