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Re: clutches
Posted by 'Hootsman' on 13 Nov 2010 @ 08:33

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Graham

I really dont want to get personal about this, you are obviously not stupid, you are very quick to come on here and defend the ABKC whilst hiding behind the excuse that if the ABKC are not told through the official channels they cannot do anything because obviously nothing is wrong.

I sent this e-mail to JAG in Dec 2009. I believe in giving the person the opportunity to either respond either by action or by explaining why no action is appropriate. JAG declined to respond and after all the discussion on here over the last 18 months you did not realise there was a problem.

Unbelievable.

Anyway here is the e-mail I sent

Jean

I have been having a discussion about this point on UK karting ref the new rule for 2010.

I was going to post this reply, but decided to send it to you instead to give you the opportunity to state what is meant by "running area"

Last year the rules stated that grease inside the clutch was not a reason for exclusion and people interpreted that as open house on how much and where the grease was applied inside the clutch. The same people also found ways to get past the attempts to enforce a 3000 RPM engagement test.

So this year the same thing could happen if someone does not clarify the rules. If I am wondering what is classed as the running surfaces, then others could be as well.

I have seen you and others argue on here about different interpretations of the rules. All I am hoping is that someone MSA/JAG/ABKC/Klassen will come out and produce a document which shows exactly the areas where the presence of any grease, lubricant or other material will result in disqualification.

here is my scenario:

A competitor tests and works out exactly how much lubricant to put on his clutch disc so that he gets the advantage for the first few laps but by the time he finishes his race the areas where the clutch disc and the drum touch are now free of the lubricant.

At the race he puts a small amount of lubricant on the inside of his clutch drum in the area which contacts the clutch disc. He then does his race. After the race the scrutineer finds there is no lubricant where the clutch disc and the drum touch but there is now lubricant residue on the rest of the drum. Would he be able to argue against disqualification.

Everything I here says that the new 'O' ring works so why leave it open to interpretation of the definition of running area.

Please make it totally crystal clear.

Regards
Joe Walmsley

Message Thread:

rotax clutches for 2011 by 'rawlinson' (09 Nov 2010 @ 22:35)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'alanrr' (09 Nov 2010 @ 22:50)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'kartster' (09 Nov 2010 @ 23:31)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'rawlinson' (09 Nov 2010 @ 23:51)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'Slippery1' (10 Nov 2010 @ 8:33)

Re: rotax changes for 2011 by 'Graham S' (10 Nov 2010 @ 8:56)

Fat chance Graham, here we go. by 'alanrr' (10 Nov 2010 @ 12:31)

Re: Fat chance Graham, here we go. by 'KenE' (10 Nov 2010 @ 18:23)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'ScoobyScene' (10 Nov 2010 @ 18:52)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'kartster' (10 Nov 2010 @ 19:15)

Kartster. by 'alanrr' (10 Nov 2010 @ 23:40)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'Cadet49Dad' (10 Nov 2010 @ 19:44)

Re: Cadet49Dad by 'iant' (10 Nov 2010 @ 21:43)

Re: Cadet49Dad by 'Cadet49Dad' (11 Nov 2010 @ 10:10)

Re: Cadet49Dad by 'iant' (11 Nov 2010 @ 21:34)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'IainB' (10 Nov 2010 @ 22:19)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'ScoobyScene' (10 Nov 2010 @ 22:23)

Re: 11 tooth front sprocket and O ring ! by 'IainB' (11 Nov 2010 @ 18:51)

Re: rotax changes for 2011 by 'Hootsman' (10 Nov 2010 @ 18:39)

Re: rotax old clutch banned? by 'stevo69' (10 Nov 2010 @ 22:07)

Graham, no wonder you wanted me to refrain.... by 'alanrr' (10 Nov 2010 @ 23:30)

Re: Graham, no wonder you wanted me to refrain.... by 'Zico' (11 Nov 2010 @ 11:26)

Re: clutches by 'Graham S' (11 Nov 2010 @ 12:18)

Re: clutches by 'alanrr' (11 Nov 2010 @ 12:48)

Zico you misunderstood what I said. by 'alanrr' (11 Nov 2010 @ 21:44)

Re: clutches by 'ScoobyScene' (11 Nov 2010 @ 13:34)

Re: clutches by 'Graham S' (11 Nov 2010 @ 14:10)

Re: clutches by 'rawlinson' (11 Nov 2010 @ 14:41)

Re: clutches by 'John' (11 Nov 2010 @ 14:46)

Re: clutches by 'itpro' (11 Nov 2010 @ 15:34)

Re: clutches by 'Zico' (11 Nov 2010 @ 15:52)

Re: clutches by 'stevo69' (11 Nov 2010 @ 16:14)

Re: clutches by 'alanrr' (11 Nov 2010 @ 16:29)

Re: clutches by 'RoadRat' (11 Nov 2010 @ 17:43)

That said it all RoadRat :) :) :) by the way.. by 'alanrr' (11 Nov 2010 @ 18:01)

Re: That said it all RoadRat :) :) :) by the w by 'ScoobyScene' (11 Nov 2010 @ 20:00)

Re: That said it all RoadRat :) :) :) by the w by 'RoadRat' (12 Nov 2010 @ 13:06)

Re: clutches by 'Hootsman' (11 Nov 2010 @ 20:17)

Re: clutches by 'Graham S' (11 Nov 2010 @ 22:12)

Re: clutches by 'IanPa' (11 Nov 2010 @ 22:46)

Re: clutches by 'Graham S' (11 Nov 2010 @ 23:28)

Re: clutches Morning Alanr by 'Zico' (12 Nov 2010 @ 7:55)

Re: clutches by 'IanPa' (14 Nov 2010 @ 23:44)

Thanks IanPa, The scruts will appreciate that. by 'alanrr' (12 Nov 2010 @ 11:12)

Re: Thanks IanPa, The scruts will appreciate that. by 'chriskasch' (12 Nov 2010 @ 12:22)

Re: clutches by 'Hootsman' << You are here!

Re: clutches by 'jamieh61' (13 Nov 2010 @ 23:13)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'kartcoach' (14 Nov 2010 @ 19:51)

Re: rotax clutches for 2011 by 'kartcoach' (14 Nov 2010 @ 19:55)

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