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Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.
Posted by 'Liam' on 16 Aug 2010 @ 22:28


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Liam
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There's plenty of evidence to suggest a locked wheel provides less grip than one travelling at 80-90% of ground speed. Just have a look at any tyre test data, I think there's some in the Milliken and Milliken book, but I can probably find you some more. Alternatively just get a look at gps road speed logged against vehicle speed when a race vehicle locks its wheels. The longitudinal acceleration goes down, and does so in a lot less than a tenth.

There are lots of data loggers fast enough to tell if a kart locks its wheels 50 times on the way into a corner (although the angular accelerations required would be pretty big, still don't believe it). Sorry, but listening and watching wouldn't convince me. I've been running data loggers on race cars for a very long time now, and I no longer trust my eyes and ears to tell me what's really happening. Appearances can be deceiving.

I still respect your experience and opinions, but you seem to have a great need to be correct, and I'm not sure you are in this instance.

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Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Attack2001'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:05)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'chriskasch'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:20)
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Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'davidmc'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:36)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Attack2001'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:37)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'davidmc'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:49)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Attack2001'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:26)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:34)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Attack2001'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:40)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:33)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:46)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'davidmc'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 20:55)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'drewdt3'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 23:48)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (10 Aug 2010 @ 21:02)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'glittttt'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 9:16)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 10:32)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'NickyW'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 11:42)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'glittttt'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 13:43)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'glittttt'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 13:44)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Traxtar'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 14:03)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 14:13)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'buzzinrussell'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 14:58)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 16:33)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'DCharity'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 17:31)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'chriskasch'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 17:39)
Re: Chris  by 'Attack2001'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 20:58)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Traxtar'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 17:49)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'DCharity'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 19:34)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:12)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'glittttt'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:14)
Hold on......  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:33)
Re: Hold on......  by 'DCharity'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 16:02)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 18:51)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Traxtar'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 19:34)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 21:07)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Traxtar'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 19:47)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 21:18)
Re: Hold on......  by 'iant'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 21:47)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 0:03)
Errrr..... Liam  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:10)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:46)
Re: Hold on......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:38)
Re: Hold on......  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 17:32)
Apologies, Liam  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 13:35)
Re: Hold on......  by 'davidmc'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 23:45)
Re: Hold on......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:13)
Re: Hold on......  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:26)
Re: Hold on......  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:31)
Re: Hold on...... errrrrr....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:07)
Re: Hold on...... errrrrr....  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:49)
Re: Hold on...... errrrrr....  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:30)
Re: Hold on...... errrrrr....  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 17:54)
Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 13:57)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'Liam'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 18:19)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'davidmc'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 18:42)
David........ and Liam  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 22:03)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'Liam'  << You are here!
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'itpro'   (16 Aug 2010 @ 23:23)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'Liam'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 0:07)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 0:21)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'Liam'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 9:09)
Re: Liam....., sorry, mate, you are WRONG!.  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2010 @ 10:18)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Traxtar'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:33)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'davidmc'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 19:19)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (12 Aug 2010 @ 21:29)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:20)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 15:56)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 16:34)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'BiPed'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 16:45)
Re: TKM DD v TAG v Clutch  by 'itpro'   (11 Aug 2010 @ 22:35)
Re: Liam - DD sprocket  by 'iant'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 22:14)
Re: Liam - DD sprocket  by 'Liam'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 22:26)
Re: Liam - DD sprocket  by 'iant'   (13 Aug 2010 @ 22:42)
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