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I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve....
Posted by 'SteveC' on 11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50

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anything!

I would like to reduce the costs of all classes at all levels, but I'm not convinced your proposals would do that!

I'm all for better tyres but see it as a benefit for all levels not just Club level, two different tyres would be a disaster!

The parce ferme thing is just too complicated to work unilaterally! I would like to see and so would the ABkC tyres used for longer, but so far in depth discussions on solutions have drawn a blank on how to make it happen as explained in one of Graham's posts! I would support any sensible way to make this happen!

The fixed sprocket idea benefits some but also disadvantages others already in the class trying to spend less too and a fixed sprocket would either drive them out of the class or their alternative is bound to be more expensive, hence why I think it's difficult to change existing classes! I wouldn't support this for this reason on any existing class!

I don't want an abundance of classes either, but there is currently no Nationally recognised cheap way into the sport.

Where TKM is running it is cheapish, but could be made far cheaper by removing the highly priced stamped non performance parts! A recognised BT82 entry level would be even better!

Honda Cadet is an excellent class too, but not promoted in enough places!

Much of the promotion of our sport is currently trade or commercially driven and in reality it needs to be more centrally promoted with trade support for all classes in all areas! Currently the only classes that run at some tracks are what the trade support locally, we need to work on those areas fast!

We need somehow to get people to understand that going the team route can be expensive and often not productive, see NJB's post on spending with the wrong teams and getting the wrong advice!

When TKM 1st started no Works Drivers were allowed, the day I saw the big Team awning arrive at Rowrah I knew that reg was obsolete, but we need to bring something in to that effect for certain levels of the sport! The 'Team' mentality as I've called it on several occasions has driven the cost of our sport high!

This is not a dig at the Teams as they are only fulfilling what people believe they need, but if this continues there will not be enough people left to even fill the Teams at levels where Teams are needed!

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'Dandino' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)

REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES by 'michaelg36' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'alanrr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)

Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt) by 'alanrr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'PGB' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'buzzinrussell' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)

abkc!!!!!!! by 'colin' (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'chriskasch' (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)

I can see why you think these solutions John! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40)

I think you have a point, however this is not..... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Trev' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'rotaxmxr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)

Back to the original debate, by 'RichyC' (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'rotaxmxr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'rotaxmxr' (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'chriskasch' (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'SimonS' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:29)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)

This board is not an abkc forum! by 'SteveC' (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)

What a load of rubbish! by 'SteveC' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Zoesdad' (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'SimonS' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Zoesdad' (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)

The ABkC is hardly rife with politics! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)

Fixed gearing is difficult! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)

Re: Fixed gearing is difficult! by 'Zoesdad' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)

Limitations of clubs SRs by 'Zoesdad' (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'paulklaassen' (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Tbag' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Graham S' (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 6:51)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Graham S' (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)

That's not fair John! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)

Re: That's not fair John! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)

Bloody hell! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)

Re: Bloody hell! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)

Oy! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)

Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'Zoesdad' (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)

When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests.... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)

Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests by 'iant' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)

As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by.. by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)

Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by 'KevinW' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)

I hope you're right and history is wrong! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)

Re: Tyro by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)

Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will. by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)

Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)

They were doing that long before any recession! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)

Re: They were doing that long before any recession by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)

No, I'm not yet convinced John! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)

Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John! by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)

I know you're trying (pardon the pun), by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)

Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun), by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)

Nice try John! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)

Re: Nice try John! by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)

John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly....... by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)

Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly... by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)

I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve.... by 'SteveC' << You are here!

Graham's pointed out a good solution! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)

Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)

I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)

Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)

You give up too easy John! by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)

Harder tyres may not be the answer! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)

Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer! by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)

I think that's word for word what........ by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)

Re: I think that's word for word what........ by 'alanrr' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)

If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what...... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)

Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what..... by 'alanrr' (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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