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Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!
Posted by 'John' on 09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02


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Now I know as I am not Itpro I cannot insist that this debate stays on message, but I am not talking about how much each person chooses to spend or indeed the cost of Max compared to TKM.

It’s not a cheap solution to change class when you already own your kit, to go from KF1 to Max or from Max to TKM or from TKM to Prokarts costs money.

My debate was purely about how to reduce costs within each class without changing the level of competition, in fact in the case of the Max I believe that if we all run on harder tyres and use the same gearing then the level of competition will be increased and the gap between the haves and have not’s will be dramatically reduced, but the rewards for a good set-up in terms of both chassis and engine tuning would be enhanced.

I am not for one minute saying that if someone has the funds that Super1 or Stars etc should change their rules; in fact I believe it would be nice to have the “step up” effect in terms of open gearing and high grip tyres.

But lets be fair I am only dreaming, no one will listen and club numbers in all classes will go down the pan.

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'Dandino'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)
REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES  by 'michaelg36'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)
Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt)  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'PGB'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'buzzinrussell'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)
abkc!!!!!!!  by 'colin'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)
I can see why you think these solutions John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40)
I think you have a point, however this is not.....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Trev'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)
Back to the original debate,  by 'RichyC'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'chriskasch'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:29)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)
This board is not an abkc forum!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)
What a load of rubbish!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)
The ABkC is hardly rife with politics!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)
Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)
Re: Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'Zoesdad'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)
Limitations of clubs SRs  by 'Zoesdad'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'paulklaassen'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Tbag'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 6:51)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)
That's not fair John!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)
Re: That's not fair John!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Bloody hell!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)
Re: Bloody hell!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
Oy!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)
Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'Zoesdad'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'  << You are here!
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)
When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)
Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests  by 'iant'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)
As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by..  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)
Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called  by 'KevinW'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)
I hope you're right and history is wrong!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Tyro  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)
Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will.  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)
Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)
They were doing that long before any recession!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)
Re: They were doing that long before any recession  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)
No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)
Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)
I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)
Nice try John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Nice try John!  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)
John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly.......  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly...  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)
I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve....  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Graham's pointed out a good solution!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)
Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)
I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)
You give up too easy John!  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)
Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)
Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)
I think that's word for word what........  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: I think that's word for word what........  by 'alanrr'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what......  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what.....  by 'alanrr'   (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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