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Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!
Posted by 'John' on 09 Dec 2008 @ 06:51


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Graham,

I asked for the meeting to consider 3 things;

1. Rotax Tyres, the harder Vega XLL.

2. Fixed gearing, which was an ABkC idea for 100 Nat some years ago.

3. Club rules for the extended use of tyres, for 2 or 3 meetings.

It would appear from what you say that buying a substitute tyre from the same manufacturer is a problem, why?

Vega themselves describe this tyre as;
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Structural innovation of the tested LL, it maintains unchanged the characteristics of long kilometrical distance and the extraordinary ratio of cheapness in comparison with the performances.
Above all it is suitable for long lasting club races, for example 6/12 hours.
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The key statement from the manufacturer being “it maintains unchanged characteristics”

Your statement “I suspect the quality and consistency is far less than most would be prepared to accept” would on the face of it seem questionable?

Did you discuss points 2 and 3 above?

Telling us all we getting a good deal already and that some Clubs are holding their prices was not quite what I had in mind when I said;

“Cost cuts are vital to stop mast exits and encourage new karters into the sport”


Let’s hope I am wrong, and the ABkC have indeed got there eye on the ball.

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'Dandino'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)
REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES  by 'michaelg36'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)
Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt)  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'PGB'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'buzzinrussell'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)
abkc!!!!!!!  by 'colin'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)
I can see why you think these solutions John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40)
I think you have a point, however this is not.....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Trev'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)
Back to the original debate,  by 'RichyC'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'chriskasch'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:29)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)
This board is not an abkc forum!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)
What a load of rubbish!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)
The ABkC is hardly rife with politics!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)
Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)
Re: Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'Zoesdad'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)
Limitations of clubs SRs  by 'Zoesdad'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'paulklaassen'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Tbag'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'  << You are here!
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)
That's not fair John!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)
Re: That's not fair John!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Bloody hell!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)
Re: Bloody hell!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
Oy!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)
Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'Zoesdad'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)
When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)
Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests  by 'iant'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)
As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by..  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)
Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called  by 'KevinW'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)
I hope you're right and history is wrong!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Tyro  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)
Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will.  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)
Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)
They were doing that long before any recession!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)
Re: They were doing that long before any recession  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)
No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)
Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)
I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)
Nice try John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Nice try John!  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)
John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly.......  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly...  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)
I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve....  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Graham's pointed out a good solution!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)
Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)
I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)
You give up too easy John!  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)
Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)
Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)
I think that's word for word what........  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: I think that's word for word what........  by 'alanrr'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what......  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what.....  by 'alanrr'   (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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