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Re: No grip
Posted by 'SimonS' on 09 Dec 2008 @ 00:54

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"where can we get information on adjusting toe in/out? "

Toe in, both tyres pointing towards the centre line makes the kart move off the straight line less when going down the straight (it's sometimes called self centring) and a little slower to enter into a corner.

Toe Out tends to make the kart less stable in the straight, but turn into the corners more readily.

Normally when you sit in a kart, the caster angle on the kingpins tends to toe in very slightly (because the whole kart bends and applies leverage through the king pin angle),

So if you want to set the kart up with Zero tracking on the stand you set it up slightly toe out.

Either toe in or toe out acts as a brake, so you have to see quite a lot of benefit either from the stability or the corner entry to make it worth while setting anything but neutral.

If you have Ackermann, you can compensate for toe in/ toe out effects because Ackermann causes the wheels to turn at different angles depending on whether they are on the inside or outside of the kart. Sometimes it's getting that balance right that makes the difference.

The other problem in cold weather is that the track is effectively damp even though it appears dry. You just aren't going to get the adhesive grip that you get in warm weather, because you need heat in both sides of the bond, tyre and track, for it to work well.

Message Thread:

No grip by 'rogergreen' (07 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)

Re: No grip by 'QuickOldTimer' (07 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)

Re: No grip by 'John' (07 Dec 2008 @ 11:52)

Re: No grip by 'Oli' (07 Dec 2008 @ 15:09)

Use words carefully! by 'itpro' (08 Dec 2008 @ 11:22)

Re: Use words carefully! by 'NJB' (08 Dec 2008 @ 15:23)

Re: Use words carefully! by 'buzzinrussell' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:05)

Re: Use words carefully! by 'RunningTap' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)

defending ITPRO....? by 'FilW' (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:03)

Re: defending ITPRO....? by 'NJB' (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:32)

Re: defending ITPRO....? by 'RichyC' (08 Dec 2008 @ 21:54)

Re: defending ITPRO....? by 'RichyC' (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:15)

re: itpro....? by 'GaryMcNamee' (08 Dec 2008 @ 22:29)

re: itpro....? by 'rotaxmxr' (08 Dec 2008 @ 22:36)

re: itpro....? by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 1:35)

re: itpro....? by 'NJB' (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:15)

NJB by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 18:23)

Re: NJB...... out of interest,,,,,,,, by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 18:39)

Re: NJB...... out of interest,,,,,,,, by 'NJB' (09 Dec 2008 @ 21:45)

Re: NJB...... out of interest,,,,,,,, by 'WillDendy87' (09 Dec 2008 @ 21:55)

Will Denby by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:23)

Re: NJB...... out of interest,,,,,,,, How odd! by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 23:25)

itpro your a prat, i'm just to polite to say it. by 'rotaxmxr' (09 Dec 2008 @ 23:29)

Re: itpro your a prat, i'm just to polite to say i by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 23:39)

Re: itpro your a prat, i'm just to polite to say i by 'harvinsurrey' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:43)

Re: itpro your a prat, i'm just to polite to say i by 'harvinsurrey' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)

Nah, he knows nowt about IT! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)

Harv by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:58)

Just thinking Ian, if you can't......... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:12)

Re: Harv by 'harvinsurrey' (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:58)

Re: Harv by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (11 Dec 2008 @ 1:21)

Re: Harv by 'RoadRat' (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:58)

I like the format of this forum! by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:18)

Itpro by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:37)

Re: Itpro by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:03)

Re: Itpro by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:28)

Re: Itpro by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:20)

Re: NJB by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:32)

Re: NJB by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 14:50)

Re: NJB by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:26)

Re: NJB by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:45)

Re: NJB by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:55)

Re: NJB by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 16:10)

Re: NJB by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:37)

Re: Itpro by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 14:38)

Re: Itpro by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:27)

Re: Itpro by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:41)

Re: Itpro by 'NJB' (10 Dec 2008 @ 19:13)

To a degree Ian is encouraged from many...... by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:32)

Re: To a degree Ian is encouraged from many...... by 'crawford' (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)

That's quite sad! nt by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)

Theres is a differance...... by 'NJB' (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:04)

Hi, NJB by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 18:28)

re: hi, njb by 'graeme' (09 Dec 2008 @ 19:28)

Errr.... graeme by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 20:47)

Ian's 1st post on the subject tried to..... by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:43)

Re: Ian's 1st post on the subject tried to..... by 'NJB' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)

I only read them all when....... by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:26)

Re: I only read them all when....... by 'RoadRat' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:25)

Re: I only read them all when....... by 'itpro' (09 Dec 2008 @ 18:32)

Re: No grip by 'RoadRat' (08 Dec 2008 @ 22:44)

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