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Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide
Posted by 'RedDragonRacing' on 15 Aug 2012 @ 10:17


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This is our first season in karting and both the drivers and the mechanic are trying to figure out the basics. I've made a list of parameters that should help lifting the inside wheel. Please have a look and check for mistakes/misunderstandings:

Rims - Harder rims provide more leverage, aluminium rims are harder than magnesium.

Axle - Harder axle provides more leverage

Rear hubs - Wider rear hubs makes the axle bend less, providing more leverage

Rear track - Narrow track makes the kart tip over more easily

Crash bar, rear - Makes the frame stiffer, providing more leverage

Crash bar, front - Makes the frame stiffer, providing more leverage

Torsion bar, rear - Makes the frame stiffer, providing more leverage

Torsion bar, front - Makes the frame stiffer, providing more leverage

Caster - Maximum positive caster creates a larger heigth difference between the inner and outer front wheels, making the kart tip over more easily

Height front - More ride height up front provides more of a weigth shift between the front wheels (too much will move the CoG too far back, reducing wheel lift)

Height rear - More ride height in the rear provides more of a weigth shift between the rear wheels

Camber - Positive camber creates a larger heigth difference between the inner and outer front wheels, making the kart tip over more easily

Spacers, front - More spacers on the front/stub axles creates a larger heigth difference between the inner and outer front wheels, making the kart tip over more easily

Seat - A higher mounting position for the seat will provide more of a weigth shift. Moving the seat rearwards will move the CoG rearwards and decrease wheel lift? (Or make the kart tip over more easily?)

Weigths - Weigths mounted higher up on the seat will increase the weigth shift

Seat stays - Seat stays will push down on the rear axle's outside bearing and lift the rear axle's inside bearing

Axle center bearing - A bolted down (as opposed to loose) center bearing on the rear axle will make the rear axle bend less, making it stiffer and provide more leverage

Side pods - With the side pods tigthened, the frame will be stiffer, providing more leverage

Rear bumper - With the rear bumper tigthened, the frame will be stiffer, providing more leverage

Floor tray - With the floor tray tigthened, the frame will be stiffer, providing more leverage

Steering axle spade - With the tie rods mounted further away (more offset) from the steering axle on the steering axle spade, the inner front wheel will turn more creating more leverage?

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Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'  << You are here!
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'd-i-y71'   (15 Aug 2012 @ 14:35)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Traxtar'   (15 Aug 2012 @ 16:08)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Brasic'   (15 Aug 2012 @ 22:43)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'buzzinrussell'   (15 Aug 2012 @ 23:11)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (16 Aug 2012 @ 12:37)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Chris34'   (16 Aug 2012 @ 15:38)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'BFD'   (16 Aug 2012 @ 17:46)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'michaelg36'   (16 Aug 2012 @ 23:34)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'BFD'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 6:51)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 7:59)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'PoppaAl'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 9:09)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Thebrick'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 10:26)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Danlee'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 11:31)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Chris34'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 12:32)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'Traxtar'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 12:53)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:02)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:10)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:35)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:53)
Errrr...... well......  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:04)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:25)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'michaelg36'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 13:53)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'BFD'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 14:24)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 14:41)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 14:52)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 20:35)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'BFD'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 21:05)
Red...  by 'itpro'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 0:57)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 9:50)
Re: BFD  by 'Attack2001'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 2:11)
Re: BFD  by 'BFD'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 18:55)
Re: BFD  by 'Aquila'   (19 Aug 2012 @ 22:01)
Re: BFD  by 'BFD'   (19 Aug 2012 @ 22:38)
Re: BFD  by 'BFD'   (19 Aug 2012 @ 23:27)
Come on BFD..........  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 0:05)
Re: BFD  by 'Aquila'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 10:30)
Red....  by 'itpro'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 14:36)
Re: Red....  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 20:11)
re: itpro. wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong  by 'BFD'   (17 Aug 2012 @ 21:18)
re: itpro. wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong  by 'itpro'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 0:40)
re: itpro. wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong  by 'richpudd2003'   (19 Aug 2012 @ 23:51)
OK Red... I apologise for the idiots, though!  by 'itpro'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 0:34)
Re: Classic!  by 'PoppaAl'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 10:09)
Re: OK Red... I apologise for the idiots, though!  by 'markmorton'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 17:38)
Re: OK Red... I apologise for the idiots, though!  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 9:57)
Re: Red....  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (27 Aug 2012 @ 9:58)
Re: Red....  by 'John'   (28 Aug 2012 @ 8:14)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 1:46)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 6:48)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 17:42)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 20:57)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 21:04)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 0:48)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 7:15)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:37)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 18:24)
Re: Red....  by 'Aquila'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 18:28)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (02 Sep 2012 @ 1:14)
Re: Red....  by 'Traxtar'   (02 Sep 2012 @ 20:19)
Re: Red....  by 'BFD'   (02 Sep 2012 @ 22:14)
Re: Red....  by 'Traxtar'   (02 Sep 2012 @ 22:24)
Traxtar.....  by 'itpro'   (03 Sep 2012 @ 1:36)
Re: Traxtar.....  by 'BFD'   (03 Sep 2012 @ 7:51)
Re: Traxtar.....  by 'sawf'   (03 Sep 2012 @ 10:28)
Re: Red....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 7:58)
Re: Red....  by 'John'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 8:37)
Re: Red....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:19)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:31)
Re: Red....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:35)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:39)
Re: Red....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 11:51)
Re: Red....  by 'itpro'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 12:27)
Re: Red....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (31 Aug 2012 @ 12:30)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'NJB'   (23 Aug 2012 @ 17:11)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (27 Aug 2012 @ 9:47)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'Andy99'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 9:56)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (30 Aug 2012 @ 10:26)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'Liam'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 14:18)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 15:57)
Re: Errrr...... well......  by 'Liam'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 20:54)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'SimonS'   (18 Aug 2012 @ 12:13)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 9:36)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'itpro'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 10:43)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'SimonS'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 1:49)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 2:20)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'd-i-y71'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 12:53)
Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 13:18)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 16:42)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Liam'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 20:43)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 20:51)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Liam'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 21:08)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Traxtar'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 22:49)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Liam'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 23:56)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'richpudd2003'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 0:36)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Liam'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 2:09)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'itpro'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 10:34)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'richpudd2003'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 11:47)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'Traxtar'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 12:20)
Re: Is wheel lift only from turn-in till apex?  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 10:37)
Re: Possibly better video to highlight steer angle  by 'NikG'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 15:16)
Re: Possibly better video to highlight steer angle  by 'Traxtar'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 15:23)
Re: Possibly better video to highlight steer angle  by 'NikG'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 15:38)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'd-i-y71'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 12:40)
Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 10:03)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'itpro'   (20 Aug 2012 @ 11:10)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 12:27)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'itpro'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 16:02)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'Traxtar'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 17:21)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'BFD'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 18:53)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'Farrang'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 19:16)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 10:51)
Re: Perfect weigth distribution?  by 'Aquila'   (21 Aug 2012 @ 22:09)
good to see a lively debate....  by 'NJB'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 8:07)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'itpro'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 10:37)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'BFD'   (22 Aug 2012 @ 18:01)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'EtheT'   (24 Aug 2012 @ 15:55)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'BFD'   (24 Aug 2012 @ 17:28)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'richpudd2003'   (24 Aug 2012 @ 18:03)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'BFD'   (24 Aug 2012 @ 23:08)
Re: good to see a lively debate....  by 'Traxtar'   (25 Aug 2012 @ 0:46)
Re: Lifting inside wheel - beginner's guide  by 'RedDragonRacing'   (01 Oct 2012 @ 15:49)

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