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Re: Why is this allowed to happen? - Simon
Posted by 'SimonS' on 24 Feb 2014 @ 20:34

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We are getting a long way from the original thread, sort of.

Look at it from several points of view.

How would you run the meetings? Many tracks are already using their full allocation of racedays, due to planning consent and noise limitations, so you would have to offer the tracks a considerable incentive to give up their bread and butter club meetings to run this 'private series'.

So your "at most of the tracks you race at" is already much limited.

Then you propose that it is outside the MSA but has a national and regional format (something like the NKRA?) which implies a lot of races, suggesting that even the IKR tracks will see quite a chunk of their clients using up their budget to race at other tracks, which suggests their incentive is limited.

You suggest a price of Ł40, but that ignores the problem of race days when you would need to provide a team of marshals, officials and medical cover. Again many tracks already struggle to supply enough club officials, which suggests the organisers might have to bring in their own team, which tends to be expensive. So Ł40 to register for the series but an extra Ł20 -30 for each round?

The idea of opening the racing to anyone who can show competence is a return towards the pre-Arks licencing (without the licence presumably) of the MSA. So here's the question, what can the officials do if they decide that one of the drivers doesn't display enough racecraft or competence when the requirement is simply that 'you have been seen to race before'. Would you have novice plates for example or would it simply be the return of the entry fee and there's the gate? And one of the problems might well be the number of people at a meeting. There might turn out to be quite a number of drivers who simply weren't used to having 30 or more drivers on the grid, especially if one adopts the non-qualifying format, where the drivers actually have to drive through the pack. It is quite common even, or especially, at MSA meetings to have major pileups when people haven't yet learned their and other people's limits (at the beginning of the season especially. More so if half the drivers are the courteous IKRs with a non-contact attitude and half may be win-at-all-cost nutters about whom there are so many complaints.

I would think that BRP-Rotax would risk offending the MSA, track operators, their dealers and distributors, the SuperOne establishment and possibly a large number of drivers who found their race calendar cut short or suddenly without their usual grid numbers because the rest were following the series.

If they then expanded this across Europe, effectively declaring that only they had a valid Championship I would think they would offend every national body and the FIA / CIK.

If I was Rotax I would be thinking that it was a very big risk to take, especially when all that needs to happen is that the distributors effectively put their weight behind X30 and stop recommending Rotax as a class

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