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Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?
Posted by 'itpro' on 26 Dec 2013 @ 18:10


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Well, it's nice that we can disagree but perhaps it would be more helpful to anyone reading this thread if you explained HOW I am wrong....which I could easily be.

Can you explain to me EXACTLY what (for example) extra seat stays are supposed to do?

1) Do they 'put more of the driver's weight onto the axle'?

2) Do they 'stiffen the chassis so it flexes less'?

3) do they 'redistribute the weight more evenly over the chassis'?

4) Do they 'stiffen the seat stays so that they flex less, thus keeping the driver more central in the kart'?

These are not just ideas picked out of the air by me: I have been told that seat stays work by various people and they have used ALL those 4 explanations.... and more..... and they are ALL B*LL*CKS! My reason for saying this is that none of the above stand up to examination.... they simply CANNOT be correct from a purely 'physics' position.!

What's your suggestion for how seat stays ACTUALLY work??

My view has always been: if there are a large number of explanations, of which NONE stands up to scrutiny, then we have yet another example of the 'footballer's magic sponge'..... it's called, a placebo. I.e., it's an item that does NOTHING but just reassures the 'patient'.

I really AM happy to learn from you. Just tell me how seat stays work and, if it makes sense, I'll admit my error and apologise to the seat stays I have 'slighted'.

Ian

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Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'goman'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 20:52)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 21:21)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 22:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 22:35)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 1:16)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 21:14)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 21:56)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 8:59)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 21:02)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 12:20)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'christkm'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 13:42)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PoppaAl'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 19:32)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 21:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 0:47)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'raceinstructor'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 9:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 10:26)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 13:42)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 18:28)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Traxtar'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 22:35)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 7:44)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'buzzinrussell'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 19:58)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Traxtar'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 21:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'buzzinrussell'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 13:37)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'MaxRacewear'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 7:52)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 9:16)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 10:50)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 11:54)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 13:36)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'raceinstructor'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 14:47)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'SimonS'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 15:19)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 1:21)
Re:simonS  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 22:02)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 15:39)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 1:30)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 10:03)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 0:45)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 8:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 8:49)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 9:21)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 12:58)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 14:30)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 17:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 11:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 11:54)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 13:00)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 14:31)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 15:44)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 15:53)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 18:40)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'iant'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 19:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 8:56)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'iant'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 14:49)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 16:55)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 9:20)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 11:06)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 19:13)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 20:51)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'karting'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 22:08)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'John'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 0:04)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 12:32)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 13:24)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 14:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 16:05)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NikG'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 16:37)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 18:05)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 18:24)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 19:15)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 23:47)

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