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Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?
Posted by 'itpro' on 24 Dec 2013 @ 17:10


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itpro
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Farang....

Such an answer is impossible to give without knowing your kart intimately..... unless the person is happy to lie to you.....

Why?

Let's take something as simple as some action which (supposedly) stiffens the kart. We start with the position that there is a PERFECT level of 'stiffness', either side of which (stiffer/looser) the kart will handle worse than this 'optimum stiffness'. Ok?

Therefore, unless we already KNOW how stiff your kart is, we CANNOT POSSIBLY give you an answers that better than 50:50% likely to be correct because we do not know YOUR starting position.

Let's guess yours is too floppy. We advise you to go stiffer..... and.... up to the 'optimum stiffness', we will be giving the CORRECT advice...... BUT if you take it PAST the optimum setting, it's be EVEN WORSE. However, if you are too stiff already, then advising you to go stiffer will make it MUCH worse!

So..... in such conditions, the advice to 'go stiffer' can be right in 1 case but WRONG in (at least) 2 cases..... This isn't because we don't know what works, it's because we don't know if you are too stiff or too soft to BEGIN with!

Stiffness is JUST an example: the same applies to....:-

1) More or less caster
2) More or less camber
3) Move weight forward or backward
4) Rise or lower the seat
5) widen or narrow the rear axle
6) make the engine run richer or leaner.
7) Etc.......

All of these require the advisor to KNOW what's wrong to begin with!

Anyone who advises you WITHOUT knowing enough about YOUR specific kart is (probably) wrong/guessing: point BLANK!

And now you can see why!

We'd need an ACURATE description of your kart's handling (and preferably) to WATCH your kart, before we can PROPERLY advise you.

Ian

Message Thread:

Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'goman'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 20:52)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 21:21)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 22:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (17 Dec 2013 @ 22:35)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 1:16)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 21:14)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (18 Dec 2013 @ 21:56)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 8:59)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 21:02)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 12:20)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'christkm'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 13:42)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PoppaAl'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 19:32)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Liam'   (19 Dec 2013 @ 21:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 0:47)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'raceinstructor'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 9:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 10:26)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 13:42)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'KevinW'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 18:28)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Traxtar'   (20 Dec 2013 @ 22:35)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 7:44)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'buzzinrussell'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 19:58)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Traxtar'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 21:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'buzzinrussell'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 13:37)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'MaxRacewear'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 7:52)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 9:16)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 10:50)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 11:54)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 13:36)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'raceinstructor'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 14:47)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'SimonS'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 15:19)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 1:21)
Re:simonS  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 22:02)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (21 Dec 2013 @ 15:39)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 1:30)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (22 Dec 2013 @ 10:03)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 0:45)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 8:01)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 8:49)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 9:21)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 12:58)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 14:30)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 11:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 11:54)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 13:00)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 14:31)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 15:44)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'Farrang'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 15:53)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 18:40)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'iant'   (23 Dec 2013 @ 19:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 8:56)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'iant'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 14:49)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (24 Dec 2013 @ 16:55)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 9:20)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 11:06)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 18:10)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 19:13)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 20:51)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'karting'   (26 Dec 2013 @ 22:08)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'John'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 0:04)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 12:32)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'd-i-y71'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 13:24)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 14:41)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 16:05)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NikG'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 16:37)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 18:05)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'NJB'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 18:24)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 19:15)
Re: Do we really need 50mm axles & 25mm stubs?  by 'itpro'   (27 Dec 2013 @ 23:47)

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