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Re: Latest MSA Rule Changes
Posted by 'SimonS' on 26 Aug 2013 @ 12:01

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"So I read this as now meaning if there is a kerb you can use the entire of the kerb regardless of where the white line is".

However, one has to look at the circumstances. The idea of racing is to stay within a defined area, the "racing surface".

The racing surface is defined as being between the white lines, or marks as approved in the licence.

There is a slightly larger area, the track, which includes safety areas (kerbs) and special areas (grids, parc ferme,scrutineering etc)

On has a set of rules defining the basics of "Circuit Racing". This applies to cars and karts and includes rules for conduct on the racing surface and in supplementary areas

It defines the race as a period of time spent on the track rather than the racing surface.

This is because it may be possible to leave the racing surface, but still not exclude oneself from the race. Thus going into the pits is leaving the racing surface but not always leaving the race.

Leaving the track always signifies withdrawal from the race. Rejoining the track after leaving it is subject to CoC review, mandatory on the second occasion.

So one has to define exactly what constitutes leaving the track. The rule being discussed define leaving the track.

However, the areas off the track outside the racing surface are controlled by separate rules. For example, speed in the pits/grid area.

This include Kerbs.

Kerbs are safety zones. One may not have 'left the track' by using a safety zone (so each use does not DEMAND review by the CoC) but one has gone outside the racing surface.

Thus, in karting, if you stick a single wheel onto a kerb, it can be reviewed as to whether one did it for advantage or because one needed the safety area. Repeatedly needing the safety area is unsafe driving on the one hand or deliberate seeking of an unfair advantage on the other.

I agree, the differentiation between 'track' and "racing surface" is not as clearly defined as I have made it, but if one allows that that is what is meant, then the rules become clear.

Being on the kerb doesn't mean that one has left the track, but it does mean one is subject to special zone rules, not racing surface rules.

Perhaps they will rewrite the rules making the difference between racing surface and supplementary surface clearer, but if they do there will be complaints from people saying it was clear anyway.

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Re: Latest MSA Rule Changes by 'SimonS' (25 Aug 2013 @ 16:14)

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Re: Latest MSA Rule Changes by 'SimonS' (25 Aug 2013 @ 15:31)

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