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Re: Green Paper 2
Posted by 'SimonS' on 30 Nov 2010 @ 12:40

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"NKRA and NKF are the same just splitting the country in half to keep it more local and arnt they formula blue dealers? "

No, they aren't. Both associations run championships for a variety of classes, indeed this is teh first year that NKF have run Blue.

If one was to follow your logic, we could equally dismiss S1 and FKS as being simply commercial, benefitting certain tracks and certain traders who happen to have influence in ABKC.

"My reservations about formula blue for instance is in the restrictors. Ok your heavy so were going to give you more power! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Impose a sensible weight limit and don't encourage overweight people to compete without doing something about their health issues!"

You mean like other classes where if you are slightly heavier than a 'target' weight you might as well not compete...or lightweight drivers add more lead than their own weight.

The restrictors were introduced originally to allow the air-cooled engines to compete sensibly with the water cooled TaG engines when they were introduced. When the MSA expressed concern at the amount of lead some people were carrying, up to 40kg in some cases, the restrictors were extended to reduce the amount of lead any individual competitor carried.

As for the issue of health, among Blue drivers there are Rugby players topping 16 stone and international athletes at about 8 stone. Both sets are at the peak of their game, which do you consider to have weight problems?

Or should the MSA only issue licences to people who fall into one category and have teh scrutineers run a go-nogo gauge over the driver as well as the kart?

"KF needs a 100 National to allow people to compete on a budget"

Why? As you point out the budget just for competing in KF would be at least Ł10k a year, if you add in entry and travel fees. The idea that there are many people who want to spend that on 'budget' racing is perhaps wrong.

"You will never stop people spending on driver coaching and testing etc but if you can balance the cost of the kit its a start."

You are suggesting that you need another chassis and two more engines for practise just to be competitive, so the budget competively is now Ł15 to 20K. ( You wouldn't want to use up your race engines in practice would you?) And of course, that doesn't allow you to race at club level unless you can create a grid of like minded, like budgeted drivers.

"But you do have to draw a line between non-msa racing, and non msa racing run by msa officials and former msa competitors. The later is not neccessarily a bad option, the first needs to be stamped out."

Again, why? Why should people be forced to race MSA just because you think it is a good idea? If the issue was death and damage, I would agree that extra standards of staffing, scrutineering etc would be a good idea, but if people are willing to race without that safety net and without having licenced drivers and do not suffer from an excess of crashing, why shouldn't they?

After all, a track can only survive for as long as its clients are happy and they will provide adequate safety, if they don't, they go bust or get a visit from the council.

Message Thread:

Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (29 Nov 2010 @ 18:07)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (29 Nov 2010 @ 19:03)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 2:25)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 9:43)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' (30 Nov 2010 @ 10:17)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'richydehav' (30 Nov 2010 @ 10:31)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:17)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:06)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:56)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 12:24)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'richydehav' (30 Nov 2010 @ 10:26)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:53)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' << You are here!

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:04)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:21)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:38)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:57)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 14:15)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 14:48)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:04)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:18)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:26)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'colinR' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:24)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'QuickOldTimer' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:12)

i like it :) by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:44)

Free Medical by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 18:36)

Re: i like it :) by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 18:46)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 20:07)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'QuickOldTimer' (30 Nov 2010 @ 21:18)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'NorthernMunkee' (01 Dec 2010 @ 0:14)

Re: QOT = bang on the money !! (nt) by 'iant' (30 Nov 2010 @ 20:17)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'struds' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:41)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'ewbj' (30 Nov 2010 @ 19:17)

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