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Re: Green Paper 2
Posted by 'John' on 30 Nov 2010 @ 10:17

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I have just posted this on Karting1 in repose to a similar thread.

Alan Dove wrote:
But we should ask the question - do the MSA need to provide anything more than a sound licence and regulatory system as well?

And the answer to that question is in my view is a resounding NO

But if that were the case then Karting is left to the ABkC and the Kart Clubs themselves and that system, is basically what we have now, which we all complain about.

For me the answer lies in trying to reduce the costs of karting and the barriers to entry into MSA karting.

ARKS Test – Should be free, managed by each Club, consisting of two parts;

1. A safety test, computer based multi-choice which must be passed with a score of 100%

2. A driving test where the driver must hit a target laptime based on say 80% of the best laptime of the day - these lap sessions to be completed at lunchtime and supervised by the Club officials and must demonstrate good safe kart control as well as the target laptime.

No limit to the number of times a driver can take these tests, once both are passed then a certificate is issued by the Club and the MSA use this as evidence to issue a licence.

Kart Classes – Now this is the real hot potato, it is driven totally by commercial interests and those commercial interests as you would expect will strongly resist any change that will affect their income. They have the power, as they make sure they are on, or represented on, these committees.

Notwithstanding the above here is my shot:

No sealing of engines, all engines can be machined / modified to meet a class engine fiche. This will allow all engines to be matched in terms of performance and give back some power to the scrutineers which will also reassure the club competitors that a fair contest was had by all. It would also help with maintenance costs for those with the skills to undertake their own maintenance.

All classes, to allow any chassis which meets MSA technical regulations, this will allow all competitors to change class by just changing their engine package.

No new engine classes to be introduced until independent tests have demonstrated that the engine will complete 20 hours of race competition without any maintenance at all. This control will ensure that each new class will be of good basic design, reliable and have a reasonable maintenance costs when raced.

New classes to be trialled by the Clubs, ‘as a guest class’ on application by any manufacturer which meets the above requirements and has published an engine fiche and a set of class regulations approved by the ABkC – that would allow the likes of the Aixro a grid if the numbers are really there locally. This would also allow any Club to run one ‘guest grid’ per meeting and this would then be used as evidence at the end of each year to change the regular grid slots, for instance if the guest class numbers exceed say senior Rotax then the club would drop the senior Rotax Class and adopt the previous years guest grid as a permanent class. Perhaps this should be done nationally to give new classes a chance and help retire old engine classes gracefully?

Tyres – Possibility the greatest ongoing cost to a Club racer and the biggest Hot Potato of them all as everybody seems to get a cut out of this one – The MSA to seek a tender for one tyre each for Cadets, Juniors and Senior direct drive classes with a maximum retail price of Ł50 + VAT for a set of four with the tyres also available in single units at Ł13 + VAT. Super1 etc can carry on with the current tyres but all Club meetings to run the new tyre which of course will strip away a lot of the engine performance differences.
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Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (29 Nov 2010 @ 18:07)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (29 Nov 2010 @ 19:03)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 2:25)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 9:43)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' << You are here!

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'richydehav' (30 Nov 2010 @ 10:31)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:17)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:06)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:56)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 12:24)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'richydehav' (30 Nov 2010 @ 10:26)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 11:53)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 12:40)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:04)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'John' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:21)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:38)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 13:57)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 14:15)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 14:48)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:04)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:18)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:26)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'colinR' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:24)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'QuickOldTimer' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:12)

i like it :) by 'TheMantis' (30 Nov 2010 @ 17:44)

Free Medical by 'RoadRat' (30 Nov 2010 @ 18:36)

Re: i like it :) by 'davidmc' (30 Nov 2010 @ 18:46)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'SimonS' (30 Nov 2010 @ 20:07)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'QuickOldTimer' (30 Nov 2010 @ 21:18)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'NorthernMunkee' (01 Dec 2010 @ 0:14)

Re: QOT = bang on the money !! (nt) by 'iant' (30 Nov 2010 @ 20:17)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'struds' (30 Nov 2010 @ 16:41)

Re: Green Paper 2 by 'ewbj' (30 Nov 2010 @ 19:17)

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