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Re: Can we think about this, guys..... please!
Posted by 'itpro' on 11 Nov 2010 @ 18:45


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David and I don't agree on this one.

There is, in my opinion, a SIGNIFICANT, ground-pressure-transfer (I don't like the use of the term 'weight transfer'.....) to the front tyres under braking in a kart and you can see it if you watch karts arrive at the braking point. They pitch forward, considerably, even without any suspension.

It may not be a HUGE amount but it IS enough to remove moderate amounts of understeer: a kart that won't START it's turn-in while 'coasting' can be 'persuaded' to turn-in with even a small amount of braking BEFORE 'roll-over-steer' sets in.

I'm with Rob. If the CofG (CofF) is above ground and the brakes only apply force AT ground level, then there MUST be a 'rotation' force.

Perhaps we'd agree if we modified our statements. Perhaps we can agree on:-

.... "there is 'ground-pressure-transfer' to the front tyres under braking (but nowhere near as much as there would be if we had front brakes as well)...."

Is that an acceptable compromise?

Ian

Message Thread:

New Brakes??  by 'JamesHall'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 15:14)
Re: New Brakes??  by 'pratty'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 19:10)
Re: New Brakes??  by 'mini60matt'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 19:56)
Re: New Brakes??  by 'kartster'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 20:08)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'positivekarter'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 20:13)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'JamesHall'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 20:20)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'kartster'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 20:59)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'lambstales'   (07 Nov 2010 @ 21:07)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'GJM'   (08 Nov 2010 @ 14:52)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'Kartmasters'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 1:43)
Re: New Brakes?? go kelgate  by 'cjm2009'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 13:48)
Re: New Brakes?? cjm2009  by 'Kartmasters'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 15:23)
New Brakes?? go kelgate for OTK  by 'positivekarter'   (10 Nov 2010 @ 19:27)
GJM  by 'itpro'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 2:11)
Re: GJM  by 'GJM'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 14:17)
Re: New Brakes??  by 'hetherip'   (09 Nov 2010 @ 13:40)
Can we think about this, guys..... please!  by 'itpro'   (10 Nov 2010 @ 12:38)
Re: Can we think about this, guys..... please!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Nov 2010 @ 13:27)
Re: Can we think about this, guys..... please!  by 'RobF1'   (11 Nov 2010 @ 9:09)
Re: Can we think about this, guys..... please!  by 'itpro'  << You are here!

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