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Re: David
Posted by 'davidmc' on 27 Nov 2008 @ 18:24


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"...... but you DON'T want to draw the line when the CoC penalises you for a too slow rolling lap?

Consistency?"

Consistent because I believe that CoC's generally draw the line at the correct point for kerb usage but not for slow rolling laps.

"And both of us know that you BADLY failed in your attempt to decide what IS morally wrong in CHEATING about one rule while being all 'holier than thou' on the OTHER point. I know you are a Christian and I would remind you of the biblical quotation: Mathew 23:24

"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel!""

I'm certainly not Christian, nor any other religion. You treat morals as abiding by the rule book, I determine morality through my own sense of right and wrong.

"It is NOT for those who DO cheat to decide what it is NOT cheating or else Christo was NOT a cheat! The RULES set the boundaries, not those who habitually break them.... as you claim to be able to do!

Please don't dress-up your support for ONE type of cheating as 'MORAL'! All types of cheating, even if they ARE done by ME, are Immoral! And of COURSE I use/d the kerbs in exactly trthe same way that I controlled the (very rare) pole positions that I got...... to my BEST ADVANTAGE....... but I do NOT claim that it was 'morally correct', though!"

People determine morality, not rule books. As a perfect example, I believe state sanctioned murder (aka the death penalty) to be morally wrong. Should my position change depending on the country I reside in? Should I suddenly find the death penalty morally ok simply because I've moved to the US (not that I have)?

In summary, I'm happy with the CoC's enforcement of kerb usage (although I'd prefer not to have to use them) but I'm not happy with their enforcement of slow rolling laps. In the former, your competitor remains in the race, the latter they do not.

Dave

Message Thread:

CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'TKM177'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Avago'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:47)
Who was the CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'rotaxdave'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:31)
Re: Who was the CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Smith43'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'cadet44'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:44)
Anyone who didn't take the original start is.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:24)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'JPG'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:24)
Not relevant to being allowed to restart!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:04)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'alanrr'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Anyone who didn't take the original start is..  by 'LRT'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:17)
Re: CoC at Whilton this weekend  by 'Sticky'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:43)
The pole man is responsible for a pace that.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:21)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'Sticky'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:38)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:45)
Rubbish, a driver needs to do the sensible thing!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:42)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:35)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:56)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:16)
David  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 14:36)
Re: David  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: David  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)
Re: The pole man is responsible for a pace that...  by 'chriskasch'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:20)
The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 12:45)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'davidmc'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 13:20)
Re: The speed trap is only on the start line......  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)
Starting speeds another example of officials....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:46)
You've obviously never used a pace kart for.......  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)
Re: You've obviously never used a pace kart for...  by 'chriskasch'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 10:40)
The current method of starting and the reg to.....  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:04)
Re: The current method of starting and the reg to.  by 'KartingPete'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:35)
That would be like timing the rolling lap!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:22)
Re: That would be like timing the rolling lap!  by 'KartingPete'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:47)
Not having a grid of clean engines causes  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:53)
Re: Not having a grid of clean engines causes  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 13:03)
Some kerbs yes, some kerbs no!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 8:25)
Re: Some kerbs yes, some kerbs no!  by 'itpro'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 12:22)
The norm for karting is! (just for your......  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:22)
Re: The norm for karting is! (just for your......  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:49)
Disc protectors are a CIK thing!  by 'SteveC'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 9:54)
Re: You've obviously never used a pace kart for...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:00)
You've obviously not written regs before!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 11:11)
There far from a perfect comparison!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:50)
The off side reg hasn't changed in modern......  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:46)
Wrong again..... Steve!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:03)
Totally right, davidmc doesn't mention hockey!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:27)
Re: Totally right, davidmc doesn't mention hockey!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 13:07)
http://www.karting.co.uk/notice/Message.asp?FID=1&  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 8:29)
...... and the TITLE read..........  by 'itpro'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 12:24)
However should you work out how to follow a.....  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:27)
Re: However should you work out how to follow a...  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:52)
Safari makes it obvious!  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:07)
I'm so sorry Ian, I've only just realised!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:41)
Hockey again!  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:29)
Just a test!  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:55)
No, that would be your reply to your own post! nt  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:10)
Not so, football regs state very clearly that  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 8:44)
If I was talking about hockey off side, I would...  by 'SteveC'   (29 Nov 2008 @ 13:29)
Errrrr...... go on then.... explain it!  by 'itpro'   (30 Nov 2008 @ 14:58)
You're using an inferior browser!  by 'SteveC'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: You're using an inferior browser!  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 17:05)
You've tested it on Safari on a PC!  by 'SteveC'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: You've tested it on Safari on a PC!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 10:24)
I don't think it was ever intended to do so!  by 'SteveC'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 9:09)
Just for the avoidance of doubt!  by 'SteveC'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 9:51)
RE:TKM 177  by 'Beezo'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:11)
RE:TKM 177  by 'TKM177'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)

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