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Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...
Posted by 'SimonS' on 23 Nov 2008 @ 09:29


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There are several levels at which this discussion operates.

At Level one, there's the inevitability of using the kerbs, because sometimes it is faster and sometimes one miscalculates.

We all appreciate that the kerbs are there because it stops the infield being turned into a big hole as people cut across the grass and that they should be lumpy to prevent people using them as an extension of the track.

At level two, there has been an evolution in kart and track design. Karts are now more tolerant of being driven across kerbs, with adjustable flexibility that means one can take more advantage of kerbs. At the same time drivers (or parents) have complained about the safety of kerbs that punish them when they are hit.

At level three karting has become a sport where winning, revenge or different thrills have become paramount to some people.

The problem is that the bad driving caused is on the increase and taking kerbs more often means that it is only a matter of time before a disc fails catastrophically.

What are the dangers then?

Ignoring the dangers leaves the sport open to massive compensation payments. Imagine a child who had been described in the press as the 'next Lewis Hamilton' and lawyers using that to demand compensation for a 'probable' future earning of £100 million per annum.

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro.  by 'raceinstructor'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)
This isn't new.  by 'DavyBoy'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)
not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'SimonS'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'raceinstructor'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)
Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)
Tripe  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)
So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)
And......  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)
4 ie whole of the kart!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)
Ahhhh haaa!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)
I don't know if I agree or disagree with.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)
I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)
You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)
Re: You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)
Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)
That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)
Re: That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Historic, exactly!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)
I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)
Re: I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'itpro'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)
Not same size, but same shape!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)
Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)
Play on words Ian!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)
I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'RobWallace'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)
Lucky it's only a disc protector.  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)
HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'alanrr'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)
Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)
I don't need to re write it,........  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)
Your inconsistencies are STUNNING!  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)
You saying Tony Temple........  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)
ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)
Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Rules with discretion are because no two.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)
RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)
Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)
Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'davidmc'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)
DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: DavidMc  by 'davidmc'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)
Re: DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)
itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)
Re: itpro  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)
How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)
Re: How unusual!  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)
You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)
Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)
cont..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)
Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)
English culture lessons for free!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)
Re: Is.....  by 'Aztech'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)
It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like...  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)
Re: Thats quite funy Steve...  by 'Aztech'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)
I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)
Re: lol  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)
Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'broke'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38)
Some answers to this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'adey8ball'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)
re the Clay chicane  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)
Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)
Re: itpro  by 'MattBell'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: Mat  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)
Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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