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Re: Venues for next years S1
Posted by 'JamesD' on 07 Oct 2008 @ 08:36

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I have to say that is one of the best and coherent threads I've read for a very long time.

I am patiently waiting/hoping for some innovative ideas/proposals ahead of the 2009 S1 season - in line with the comments made by the CoC at Shenington when he said 'we've learned lessons from Clay and these will be applied...'

I've asked this before but what lessons, what will be applied, when and do we get a 'vote' on them????

This thread was/is titled 'venues for next years S1' and while I'm delighted the MSA 'brigade' know theirs even if they're still trying to work out why the number of rounds has increased (?), I'd still like to know the venues for Rotax please.

I do think that we're in danger of saturating the market when you look at S1, Stars, Stars International not to mention Euromax which I have to say is organised and run brilliantly and has far LESS CARNAGE than S1 or your 'average' UK club meeting but has greater quality if not necessarily strength in depth.

Ideas?

fewer rounds NOT more!
more heats starting earier on the Saturday. Logic is it takes the rogue heat out of the equation and 'rewards' consistency. It also means we finish all races and people get home at a reasonable/sensisble time
change of format to parallel Euro series
pre-qualifying so we get a maximum grid competing for the 'premier' championship
fewer rounds might allow and end of season one-off. champion of champions ran once and that was 3 years ago but there must be enough interest from motorsport at large/sponsors particularly oin the back of the 'hamilton' effect to devleop this

in golf and tennis they have the annual shoot-out based on performance over the year - why not do the same.

the point is it's not necessarily all about the way we do it in the future although clearly that IS important. It starts with developing those ideas, getting consensus which I appreciate in karting is (almost) impossible to please everyone all of the time and listening to what the shareholders want/are saying.

If all of this is in hand and changes are afoot then great but as people say, in a world where we have to be more discerning about what we spend our money on, there will a come a point where people will vote with their feet/wallets.

Oh - and regarding the logic that 5 out of 7 rounds means you don't have to do all of them then that's absolutely right except if you're 'in it to win it' then why wouldsn't you do all the rounds to maximise your chances and therefore it will cost more at a time when very few can afford it.

Why stick at 5, why not 6 out of 8, 7 out of 9 or n out of n+2 (JOKE!)

It should be about QUALITY and NOT QUANTITY.

and we've not even address poor driving and technical 'infringements!'

Message Thread:

Venues for next years S1 by 'Brian' (02 Oct 2008 @ 16:15)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'JamesD' (03 Oct 2008 @ 14:47)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'Graham S' (04 Oct 2008 @ 19:15)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'zanardi37' (04 Oct 2008 @ 19:19)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'GrahamBritten' (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:16)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'zanardi37' (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:30)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'rushy121' (04 Oct 2008 @ 22:11)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'SteveC' (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:33)

are all champsionships going to be over 7 rounds by 'stecrmh51' (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:49)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'NJB' (04 Oct 2008 @ 22:20)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'SteveGraves' (04 Oct 2008 @ 23:48)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'bigp' (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:07)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'bigp' (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:14)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'SteveGraves' (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:26)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'Scotto89' (05 Oct 2008 @ 15:47)

as posted by Graham Smith the ABKC sec above by 'stecrmh51' (05 Oct 2008 @ 16:50)

Why 7 Rounds? by 'NJB' (05 Oct 2008 @ 17:06)

in a way by 'stecrmh51' (05 Oct 2008 @ 19:21)

Stec's right by 'michaelg36' (05 Oct 2008 @ 19:29)

Nutts Corner.. by 'ltw93' (05 Oct 2008 @ 20:34)

Re: Nutts Corner.. by 'stecrmh51' (05 Oct 2008 @ 21:49)

Funny, when people suggested Genk, I said Nutts! by 'michaelg36' (05 Oct 2008 @ 21:51)

Re: Nutts Corner.. by 'jockscabs' (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:15)

Genk to Nutts Corner by 'Cadet49Dad' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:27)

Re: Genk to Nutts Corner by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:39)

Re: Genk to Nutts Corner by 'Cadet49Dad' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:47)

The economic climate! by 'SteveC' (06 Oct 2008 @ 7:18)

Re: The economic climate! by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 9:08)

The 3 rounds up front is for the Clubs! by 'SteveC' (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:23)

Re: The 3 rounds up front is for the Clubs! by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:25)

Because venues are not now an issue! by 'SteveC' (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:24)

Re: The 3 rounds up front is for the Clubs! by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:28)

They don't have to do the extra round! by 'SteveC' (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:25)

How many S1 driver wre asked... by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:41)

Re: How many S1 driver wre asked... by 'Cadet49Dad' (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:54)

Re: How many S1 driver wre asked... by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:07)

Re: How many S1 driver wre asked... by 'Cadet49Dad' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:13)

Re: How many S1 driver wre asked... by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:19)

yes steve but you have to pay for them anyway by 'stecrmh51' (06 Oct 2008 @ 14:28)

over 15% increase in costs to compete by 'NJB' (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:34)

If you do all rounds! by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:50)

Re: If you do all rounds! by 'JamesD' (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:19)

I believe they will be announced at by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:54)

Re: I believe they will be announced at by 'JamesD' (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:16)

Re: If you do all rounds! by 'NJB' (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:31)

Sales pitch? by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:57)

Re: Sales pitch? by 'NJB' (07 Oct 2008 @ 12:17)

I don't know so I didn't answer! by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:14)

Re: I don't know so I didn't answer! by 'NJB' (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:23)

I suspect Neil was trying to please everyone! by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:27)

Re: Sales pitch? by 'JamesD' (07 Oct 2008 @ 12:31)

There will be mixed feelings I'm sure! by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:19)

Re: There will be mixed feelings I'm sure! by 'NJB' (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:28)

There will be MIXED FEELINGS I'm sure! by 'SteveC' (08 Oct 2008 @ 9:40)

Re: There will be MIXED FEELINGS I'm sure! by 'NJB' (08 Oct 2008 @ 17:23)

Oddly enough, Neil has always tried to keep....... by 'SteveC' (08 Oct 2008 @ 17:37)

Re: Oddly enough, Neil has always tried to keep... by 'NJB' (08 Oct 2008 @ 18:50)

Wrong! by 'SteveC' (08 Oct 2008 @ 22:55)

Do the S1 pay you by 'NJB' (09 Oct 2008 @ 8:59)

Re: Do the S1 pay you by 'NJB' (09 Oct 2008 @ 9:00)

Officials are appointed by Clubs! by 'SteveC' (09 Oct 2008 @ 10:30)

Just to clarify my position further! by 'SteveC' (09 Oct 2008 @ 10:44)

Re: Just to clarify my position further! by 'NJB' (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:41)

Re: Just to clarify my position further! by 'John' (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:24)

John by 'NJB' (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:59)

No! nt by 'SteveC' (09 Oct 2008 @ 10:28)

Re: NJB by 'John' (09 Oct 2008 @ 16:17)

John by 'NJB' (09 Oct 2008 @ 16:35)

Re: NJB by 'John' (10 Oct 2008 @ 11:19)

How do you work that out! by 'SteveC' (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:49)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'JamesD' (06 Oct 2008 @ 17:00)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'RevvedUp' (06 Oct 2008 @ 17:03)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'DrSeuss' (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:33)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'DrSeuss' (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:51)

Re: Venues for next years S1 by 'JamesD' << You are here!

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds by 'richydehav' (07 Oct 2008 @ 8:55)

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds by 'JamesD' (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:00)

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds by 'iant' (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:24)

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds by 'richydehav' (07 Oct 2008 @ 12:38)

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds..there is none by 'NJB' (07 Oct 2008 @ 12:53)

Re: Logic of Drop Rounds..there is none by 'JamesD' (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:05)

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