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Re: Steve, the reality is...................
Posted by 'John' on 25 Sep 2008 @ 12:31


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I agree with the majority on this issue where’s the point in wasting your money on protesting?

Perhaps I am wrong but surely after every incident on track then the CofC should shout on the radio to all officials did anybody see any wrong doing in that incident?

Therefore if the answer is NO then where’s the point in protesting an incident to which there are NO official witnesses?

Why would that protest succeed?

Or Steve, am I putting too much faith in the race officials, expecting them to deal with all incidents which they witness?

Karting is expensive enough without burning £260 or whatever it currently is, just for fun, we pay our money the exact amount that is asked for and I for one do NOT expect to have to pay extra for the rules to be enforced properly.

As far as I am concerned the appeal system is there for protesting wrong decisions that are given to you as a competitor NOT for making the officials do what we have already paid them for!

Message Thread:

What is the point............  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 10:45)
Advised not to do so?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'maxdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)
And the exact words were?  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:12)
Re: Advised not to do so?  by 'kartcollector'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 20:16)
Re: What is the point............  by 'RotaxMax22'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Re: What is the point............  by 'wildcard'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 14:39)
Re: What is the point............  by 'StepTZR250'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:09)
Re: What is the point............  by 'Aztech'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:14)
A bit of contact is OK..........  by 'FilW'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:22)
'Bud'??????  by 'itpro'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:13)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)
Re: 'Bud'??????  by 'WillDendy87'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:44)
Will Dendy 87  by 'michaelg36'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:11)
Difficult for both sides.......  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 17:02)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'NealC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:50)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'frag10'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:53)
Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought  by 'ScoobyScene'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 23:18)
At least 3 officials don't agree with your version  by 'SteveC'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:02)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'Andreasdad'   (23 Sep 2008 @ 21:38)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'broke'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:32)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'KenE'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 3:41)
Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:41)
Re: Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!  by 'richydehav'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:29)
Usually black flags are only used where a CoC is..  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:10)
And that what the appeal system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:15)
Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 7:27)
Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours and  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)
Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)
Re: Steve C  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:22)
ps it was response to your sons attack!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:50)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Steve C  by 'NJB'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)
Re: Steve C  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 19:18)
Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)
Re: Mr Welsh and Steven!  by 'tweaker'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 23:42)
I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:06)
I will clarify one thing for you tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:41)
Re: I was not aware you did MSA meetings!  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:45)
Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 9:54)
Re: Supply contact details and I will.......  by 'tweaker'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:00)
Thank you.  by 'SteveC'   (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:14)
You're right!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:41)
Re: Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours an  by 'stevenw'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:39)
No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:31)
ps I rarely do non MSA, so our paths are not.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:04)
Re: No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly.  by 'stevenw'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:15)
You're right this isn't the time nor the place!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 22:13)
Sorry but it would be un professional to discuss  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:49)
Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu  by 'kartcollector'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 17:14)
As I said retaliation is usually obvious, both on  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:13)
And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:17)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 21:16)
I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:51)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (24 Sep 2008 @ 23:29)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'michaelg36'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 1:09)
Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 8:28)
Flag marshals if doing their job right  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:44)
Yes we do have a bigger problem and this is why!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:34)
Re: And that's what the protest system is for!  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:51)
Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:58)
Re: Penalties are also dealing with it after.....  by 'bertie77'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:36)
The reality Bertie is...................  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: Steve, the reality is...................  by 'John'  << You are here!
Re: John - surely the protest supports the officia  by 'richydehav'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:57)
Re: Richydehav  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:20)
I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'John'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:27)
Yes you're right, that is the exception!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:40)
Just an addition tho'!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:43)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'RoadRat'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:52)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'DevonHawker'   (25 Sep 2008 @ 23:12)
Re: Just an addition tho'!  by 'richydehav'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 7:29)
We live in an era where you have to.......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:09)
Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:07)
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 11:55)
Re: Everyone has a right to comment!  by 'andrewf'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials.....  by 'KyleReece'   (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:42)

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