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Re: Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting!
Posted by 'richydehav' on 24 Sep 2008 @ 12:29

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The marshals and CoC have a very difficult job with this. Given the speed that even cadets go and the close nature of the racing it is almost inevitable that there will be some contact and perhaps more parents should accept this and stop making protests.
We obviously need to stop the deliberate incidents but with only so many pairs of eyes available the officials will not spot everything.
My main concern is the increase in the use of `black flags'. At a recent meeting we had a warning flag following a three kart incident. The dad of the driver who went off and out of the race was adamant it was not our fault and the CoC agreed at the subsequent hearing. However if we had a black flag instead of just a warning then our race would have been ruined for nothing.
At least with a hearing before CoC there is the chance to get all the facts out and hopefully get the right decision whereas a black flag can not be undone. There again, we would not thank the officials for leaving someone out on the track following a really dangerous incident.
Far easier to be the aggrieved dad then the official who must always get it right.

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What is the point............ by 'maxdad' (23 Sep 2008 @ 10:45)

Advised not to do so? by 'SteveC' (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: Advised not to do so? by 'maxdad' (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:06)

And the exact words were? by 'SteveC' (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:12)

Re: Advised not to do so? by 'kartcollector' (23 Sep 2008 @ 20:16)

Re: What is the point............ by 'RotaxMax22' (23 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)

Re: What is the point............ by 'wildcard' (23 Sep 2008 @ 14:39)

Re: What is the point............ by 'StepTZR250' (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:09)

Re: What is the point............ by 'Aztech' (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:14)

A bit of contact is OK.......... by 'FilW' (23 Sep 2008 @ 15:22)

'Bud'?????? by 'itpro' (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:13)

Re: 'Bud'?????? by 'RoadRat' (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:23)

Re: 'Bud'?????? by 'WillDendy87' (23 Sep 2008 @ 16:44)

Will Dendy 87 by 'michaelg36' (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:11)

Difficult for both sides....... by 'ScoobyScene' (23 Sep 2008 @ 17:02)

Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought by 'NealC' (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:50)

Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought by 'frag10' (23 Sep 2008 @ 18:53)

Re: Difficult for both sides.......And I thought by 'ScoobyScene' (23 Sep 2008 @ 23:18)

At least 3 officials don't agree with your version by 'SteveC' (23 Sep 2008 @ 19:02)

Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver by 'Andreasdad' (23 Sep 2008 @ 21:38)

Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver by 'stevenw' (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:16)

Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver by 'broke' (24 Sep 2008 @ 0:32)

Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver by 'KenE' (24 Sep 2008 @ 3:41)

Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting! by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:41)

Re: Certainly the CoC is in charge of the meeting! by 'richydehav' << You are here!

Usually black flags are only used where a CoC is.. by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:10)

And that what the appeal system is for! by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:15)

Re: At least 3 officials don't agree with your ver by 'kartcollector' (24 Sep 2008 @ 7:27)

Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours and by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:14)

Steve C by 'tweaker' (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:10)

Re: Steve C by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:22)

ps it was response to your sons attack! by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:50)

Re: Steve C by 'tweaker' (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:02)

Re: Steve C by 'NJB' (26 Sep 2008 @ 18:15)

Re: Steve C by 'tweaker' (26 Sep 2008 @ 19:18)

Mr Welsh and Steven! by 'SteveC' (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:47)

Re: Mr Welsh and Steven! by 'tweaker' (26 Sep 2008 @ 23:42)

I was not aware you did MSA meetings! by 'SteveC' (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:06)

I will clarify one thing for you tho'! by 'SteveC' (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:41)

Re: I was not aware you did MSA meetings! by 'tweaker' (27 Sep 2008 @ 0:45)

Supply contact details and I will....... by 'SteveC' (27 Sep 2008 @ 9:54)

Re: Supply contact details and I will....... by 'tweaker' (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:00)

Thank you. by 'SteveC' (27 Sep 2008 @ 10:14)

You're right! by 'SteveC' (26 Sep 2008 @ 21:41)

Re: Not sure Steven, but I have seen both yours an by 'stevenw' (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:39)

No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly..... by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:31)

ps I rarely do non MSA, so our paths are not..... by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:04)

Re: No Steven, I'm quite willing to be pleasantly. by 'stevenw' (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:15)

You're right this isn't the time nor the place! by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 22:13)

Sorry but it would be un professional to discuss by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 11:09)

Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu by 'RoadRat' (24 Sep 2008 @ 12:49)

Re: Sorry but it would be un professional to discu by 'kartcollector' (24 Sep 2008 @ 17:14)

As I said retaliation is usually obvious, both on by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:13)

And that's what the protest system is for! by 'SteveC' (24 Sep 2008 @ 18:17)

Re: And that's what the protest system is for! by 'RoadRat' (24 Sep 2008 @ 21:16)

I can see the problem at Long Circuit by 'michaelg36' (24 Sep 2008 @ 22:51)

Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit by 'John' (24 Sep 2008 @ 23:29)

Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit by 'michaelg36' (25 Sep 2008 @ 1:09)

Re: I can see the problem at Long Circuit by 'John' (25 Sep 2008 @ 8:28)

Flag marshals if doing their job right by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:44)

Yes we do have a bigger problem and this is why! by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:34)

Re: And that's what the protest system is for! by 'bertie77' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:51)

Penalties are also dealing with it after..... by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 9:58)

Re: Penalties are also dealing with it after..... by 'bertie77' (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:36)

The reality Bertie is................... by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 10:43)

Re: Steve, the reality is................... by 'John' (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:31)

Re: John - surely the protest supports the officia by 'richydehav' (25 Sep 2008 @ 12:57)

Re: Richydehav by 'John' (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:20)

I believe all incidents seen by officials..... by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials..... by 'John' (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:27)

Yes you're right, that is the exception! by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:40)

Just an addition tho'! by 'SteveC' (25 Sep 2008 @ 14:43)

Re: Just an addition tho'! by 'RoadRat' (25 Sep 2008 @ 20:52)

Re: Just an addition tho'! by 'DevonHawker' (25 Sep 2008 @ 23:12)

Re: Just an addition tho'! by 'richydehav' (26 Sep 2008 @ 7:29)

We live in an era where you have to....... by 'SteveC' (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:09)

Everyone has a right to comment! by 'SteveC' (26 Sep 2008 @ 8:07)

Re: Everyone has a right to comment! by 'QuickOldTimer' (26 Sep 2008 @ 11:55)

Re: Everyone has a right to comment! by 'andrewf' (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:07)

Re: I believe all incidents seen by officials..... by 'KyleReece' (26 Sep 2008 @ 13:42)

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