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Re: Rear axle bearings - Removing seals
Posted by 'alanrr' on 02 Dec 2014 @ 11:33

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Unlike Ronseal, WD40 doesn't do exactly what it says on the tin when it comes to ball or roller bearings :)

The bearing quickly wear if you don't use a suitable lubricant and slot cars are a country mile away from a kart axle bearing, you would probably find custard would work just as well in a slot car.

Full oil film lubrication is best and with sprays you end up relying on just a barrier lubrication as they have no hydrodynamic properties.

If you think about the conditions we put kart bearing through, then we should treat them in a suitable manner.

To understand how WD40 might work as a lubricant, we need to first understand its chemical composition. On the WD40 Web site, the marketing pitch lists the ingredients as "secret," but the material safety data sheet (MSDS) indicates the following: 60 to 70 percent petroleum distillates, 15 to 25 percent base oil and 2 to 3 percent carbon dioxide. So it would appear that WD40 is simply a combination of petroleum products mixed with a propellant (CO2).

To understand the efficacy of WD40 as a lubricant for bearings, we need to compare how the formulation of WD40 differs from common lubricants designed for use with rolling element bearings. It's hard to be specific; however, a few general comments can be made that pertain to selecting lubricants for rolling elements bearings:

First, the lubricant must have good oxidation resistance to resist sludge and varnish buildup at operating temperatures. While most lubricants are formulated with antioxidant additives to provide this protection, in addition to any natural protection afforded by the use of synthetic base stocks, it appears from the MSDS sheet that WD40 does not contain such additives and would likely degrade and form sludge fairly rapidly if used at even moderate operating temperatures.

Second, you will hear it said that "viscosity is the single most important property when selecting a lubricant." This is particularly true for rolling element bearing lubrication. Viscosity selection is based on a number of factors, including bearing type (ball, cylindrical roller, etc.), speed, bearing size, load and operating temperature. It is usually selected by calculating the bearing speed factor (dN) and the projected operating temperature. Standard charts are then available to select the viscosity given the dN factor and the temperature.

While the exact viscosity of the petroleum distillates or base oil in WD40 is unknown, from experience it has been determined that it does not have a particularly high viscosity. So unless this application is particularly high speed, operating at low to moderate temperatures, it is unlikely that WD40 contains an oil of sufficiently high viscosity to provide adequate lubrication for the rolling element/bearing raceway interface.

One other factor to consider is that depending on bearing design, the roll/cage interface will also likely operate under hydrodynamic conditions. Under these conditions, the typical rule of thumb is for a minimum viscosity of 4 centistokes (at operating temperature) to support the load. Again, it is unlikely that WD40 would meet these requirements as a lubricant.

Third, depending on the operating environment, the bearing will be prone to corrosion, particularly rusting. Nearly all lubricants contain specific additives called rust inhibitors to counteract this. Again, the MSDS sheet offers no evidence of such additives in WD40.

Fourth, depending on bearing design and application, the use of anti-wear additives may be required, particularly where heavy or shock loads are present or where the application dictates possible thrust loading between the end of the rolling element and the raceway flanges. Based on the MSDS sheet, WD40 does not appear to contain such additives, which may result in fatigue and/or adhesive wear.

Keep in mind that WD40 is manufactured and marketed as a household lubricant for those "small jobs" or as a rust remover. For these applications, it does a fine job. However, WD40 is not sold nor should it be used as a replacement for the appropriately selected lubricant for rolling element applications in the plant — unless of course we're talking about the fan in your computer.

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Just testing the site is still working properly... by 'itpro' (10 Dec 2014 @ 13:06)

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