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Re: Standing Starts
Posted by 'itpro' on 06 May 2014 @ 12:18


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So...... why do you feel that standing starts will reduce the amount of hitting into the first corner? I simply cannot imagine why you think it will. There must be some reason for your 'hope' but can you clarify what that is. Please tell me so I can see what you mean.

I raced rolling and standing starts and I cannot remember the SLIGHTEST difference in the chance of getting shunted off into the first corner between either.

For example, look at F1...... don't most of the accidents and 'impacts' happen into the first corner there, too? Do THEY have a rolling start?

In reality, F1 shows the EXACT reverse. Most accidents occur FROM the standing start. They DO also have (effectively) 'rolling starts', i.e. when there's been a pace car session. We can, therefore, compare the two, rolling and standing. Do you see MORE accidents happen after the pace car restart or from the standing start? Obviously, that's a rhetorical question but, please answer it if we don't agree that example 'illustrates' my point!

Drivers will STILL try to get into the first corner first...... regardless of whether you make them start from a 'LeMans' start, a standing start, a rolling start or whatever. Even if you had a FULL race speed-start, there would STILL be the usual shunting! I just don't get the point of this.

It's my contention that there will be VASTLY MORE accidents than with rolling starts and the severity will be higher because SOME karts will stall completely on the line (or will lose the clutch, or whatever) and we'll have another 'Richardo Palletti' type accident that would be far less violent than with 'rolling' karts.

If it made a positive difference, I'd be FOR standing starts but I have seen no evidence nor logical reason why it WILL reduce the shunts. Just give me your REASONS for your view!

Ian

Message Thread:

PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'JohnM'   (30 Apr 2014 @ 19:38)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'NJB'   (01 May 2014 @ 15:09)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'Muzza'   (01 May 2014 @ 18:44)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'olliewestover'   (01 May 2014 @ 22:46)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'JohnM'   (02 May 2014 @ 7:35)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'moondog78'   (02 May 2014 @ 8:34)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'TeamPoor'   (02 May 2014 @ 9:02)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'olliewestover'   (02 May 2014 @ 9:16)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'rollover'   (02 May 2014 @ 11:07)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'IanA'   (02 May 2014 @ 11:59)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'NJB'   (03 May 2014 @ 7:41)
Re: PFI to Trial Standing Starts  by 'Bigjim1978'   (03 May 2014 @ 15:48)
Standing Starts  by 'jkhno1'   (05 May 2014 @ 16:20)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Alan'   (05 May 2014 @ 18:38)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'alanrr'   (05 May 2014 @ 21:32)
agree to disagree...  by 'moondog78'   (06 May 2014 @ 8:26)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 9:15)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 10:10)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 11:06)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Standing Starts  by 'PaulMRotax'   (06 May 2014 @ 12:51)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'AlfieMoon'   (06 May 2014 @ 10:29)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 12:24)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Flagman52'   (06 May 2014 @ 12:39)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'BilandRacer9'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:01)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'BilandRacer9'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:02)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Venom'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:02)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:15)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Aquila'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:20)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'Venom'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:29)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 14:07)
Re: Standing Starts  by 'richydehav'   (06 May 2014 @ 13:33)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 14:13)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'christkm'   (06 May 2014 @ 14:21)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 14:56)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 15:46)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:04)
For Itpros benefit....  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:31)
Re: For Itpros benefit....  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:42)
Re: For Itpros benefit....continued  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 18:12)
Re: For Itpros benefit....continued  by 'Moonshine'   (06 May 2014 @ 21:33)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'PaulMRotax'   (06 May 2014 @ 14:51)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:15)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'magician'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:42)
Re: Standing Starts, Flag man  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 18:09)
ian  by 'moondog78'   (06 May 2014 @ 15:39)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:11)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:21)
Re: ian  by 'rollover'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:29)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:45)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:43)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:56)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (06 May 2014 @ 19:54)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (07 May 2014 @ 11:37)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (07 May 2014 @ 20:18)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (08 May 2014 @ 0:25)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (08 May 2014 @ 14:22)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (08 May 2014 @ 15:10)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (09 May 2014 @ 12:38)
David  by 'itpro'   (10 May 2014 @ 1:58)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (12 May 2014 @ 9:37)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (12 May 2014 @ 19:48)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (13 May 2014 @ 1:36)
Re: ian  by 'PaulMRotax'   (13 May 2014 @ 8:28)
Re: ian  by 'davidmc'   (13 May 2014 @ 9:41)
Re: ian  by 'moondog78'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:46)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:59)
Re: ian  by 'moondog78'   (06 May 2014 @ 16:35)
make starts faster?  by 'SLK'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:23)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'SSR'   (06 May 2014 @ 17:47)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 18:06)
Flat out start  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (06 May 2014 @ 20:22)
Another video shock horror  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (06 May 2014 @ 20:37)
Re: Flat out start  by 'davidmc'   (06 May 2014 @ 21:09)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'SkintFather'   (13 May 2014 @ 11:06)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'Venom'   (13 May 2014 @ 11:23)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'itpro'   (14 May 2014 @ 9:23)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'davidmc'   (14 May 2014 @ 11:48)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'itpro'   (14 May 2014 @ 14:01)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'davidmc'   (14 May 2014 @ 16:30)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'itpro'   (14 May 2014 @ 17:20)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'davidmc'   (14 May 2014 @ 20:46)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'itpro'   (15 May 2014 @ 11:25)
Re: make starts faster?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 May 2014 @ 16:52)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (06 May 2014 @ 18:01)
Re: ian  by 'Dogman172'   (06 May 2014 @ 22:01)
Re: ian  by 'rollover'   (07 May 2014 @ 11:04)
Re: ian  by 'itpro'   (07 May 2014 @ 11:47)
ian has a very short one  by 'PaulMRotax'   (07 May 2014 @ 12:19)

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