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Re: Rotaxdad
Posted by 'SimonS' on 22 Apr 2014 @ 10:54


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"The difference is that the organisers will listen to your concerns and have the ability to react whereas this topic comes up weekly and yet there is no sign of the MSA doing anything about it."

I know you have an agenda, but this is absolute rubbish.

The MSA have made many attempts to stop deliberate contact driving, with rules, penalties and directives and briefings and officials training sessions etc.

The difference is that at an MSA event you have recourse to a justice system that includes appeals and reviews, while many IKR tracks announce that the operator's opinion is final and not to be contested.

As a result many drivers are prepared to debate the issue at MSA events leading to 'incident fatigue', the attitude that if you cannot be 100% certain of blame then it isn't worth reporting and that leads to drivers learning that they can get away with things.

Some of the people here most critical of contact driving are probably also most ready to argue that "it wasn't their fault" and would be highly offended if a CoC was to suggest that they were being economical with the truth. Even more so if they were disqualified purely on the CoC's opinion as can happen in IKR.

The problem may be as simple as the average driver not being willing to allow the MSA to impose the necessary level of injustice, especially if that will ruin Junior's day.

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O plate Rowrah  by 'MB30'   (16 Apr 2014 @ 21:10)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'NJB'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 8:25)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'moondog78'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 9:24)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Muzza'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 10:01)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Cadet49Dad'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 11:34)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'SAS'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 12:14)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'PoppaAl'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 13:13)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'iant'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 13:10)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'SimonS'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:14)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:24)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Rotaxdad'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:41)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:49)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Rotaxdad'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 17:02)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'moondog78'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 17:56)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'SimonS'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 10:25)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 10:34)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Rotaxdad'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:32)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'JohnForce'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:38)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Rotaxdad'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 16:43)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BombHead'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 20:14)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'ADZ'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 21:44)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'NJB'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 22:29)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'iant'   (21 Apr 2014 @ 22:33)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'MB30'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 7:43)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'PoppaAl'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 7:49)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'Jeff Johnson'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 9:47)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 10:24)
Rotaxdad  by 'christkm'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 10:25)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 10:39)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'richydehav'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 11:10)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 11:32)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'richydehav'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 16:10)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 16:55)
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'SimonS'  << You are here!
Re: Rotaxdad  by 'christkm'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 11:17)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'TeamPoor'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 13:45)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'djcv8'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 16:22)
Re: O plate Rowrah  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 17:03)
Standing Starts to stop loading?  by 'Cannar'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 19:31)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading?  by 'Inter61'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 20:19)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading?  by 'MaxRacewear'   (22 Apr 2014 @ 21:32)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading?  by 'dynamax'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 11:23)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'DaveBuky'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 11:55)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'christkm'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 12:50)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'DaveBuky'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 12:57)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'christkm'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 13:28)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'DaveBuky'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 13:58)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'christkm'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 14:05)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'DaveBuky'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 14:16)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'christkm'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 14:26)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'DaveBuky'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 14:48)
its as bad as having a dodgy engine...  by 'moondog78'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 15:34)
Re: its as bad as having a dodgy engine...  by 'christkm'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 15:41)
Re: its as bad as having a dodgy engine...  by 'SLK'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 17:16)
Re: Standing Starts to stop loading - cameras?  by 'SimonS'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 18:06)
Great Point!  by 'BanzaiBoy'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 18:23)
Re: Great Point!  by 'MaxRacewear'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 21:15)
Re: Great Point!  by 'Matty42'   (23 Apr 2014 @ 22:10)

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