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Re: Steve, you really are testing my patience
Posted by 'colin' on 12 Dec 2008 @ 14:43


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John,

I have watched this thread with much interest especially as our club have just announced reduced cost weekends for next year.

However your ideas for tyres, whilst agreeable for harder tyres the multiple race rule would be simply unworkable for a club run by voulunteers as are most, having a harder tyre for all classes yes, but having a club manage how you could ensure running for say 4 meetings?

Fixed gearing would drive many drivers away not reduce costs, I cannot look at any grid at the clubs I go to and see any advantage to this, unless the driver is stick thin! Who determines what would be the gearing for each class and each circuit?

Whilst I like some of your ideas, from a club perspective I struggle to see how a unilateral decision by any club to implement would reduce costs, to make it work would require complete imposition of rules from a governing body.

From a purely personal point of view my biggest expense was and is tyres, I would love to race on harder tyres, but imagine you have just come into karting and are thrust onto hard tyres, you may feel like giving up as softer tyres mask poorer driving so harder tyres may just force some people out, I'm not sure on that? But it does give a level playing field, but people will still buy a new set every race, having harder tyres and 4 meetings should work but again how would a club enforce it?

I don't beleive Steve C ultimately critising your ideas but looking subjectively would they, have they worked in the past?

Message Thread:

What worries me is!  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 8:21)
... this lot are disconnected from reality ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 9:03)
I agree with most of that!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:57)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'AlanHarding'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 9:21)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'NJB'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 9:37)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'chriskasch'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 9:50)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'NikG'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 10:28)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'michaelg36'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 10:37)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'Crashlanding'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 10:55)
My late pal Freddie Hunter always said......  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'SMoss31'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:00)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'KevinW'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:02)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'davidmc'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:23)
I think that's an excellent post!  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:12)
But Steve.....  by 'michaelg36'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:16)
It is optional, but many don't see it that way!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 10:58)
Steve C  by 'KevinW'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:32)
Maybe! But as NJB says it's only racing.....  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)
Re: Maybe! But as NJB says it's only racing.....  by 'davidmc'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:50)
Re: I think that's an excellent post!  by 'davidmc'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:16)
Whilst your methods are a tadge draconian......  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:09)
Kevin W  by 'michaelg36'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:13)
Have you suggested anything at those meetings Nik?  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:06)
Re: Have you suggested anything at those meetings  by 'NikG'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 18:03)
Re: Nik, I know how you feel !  by 'John'   (13 Dec 2008 @ 5:06)
How does that work John!  by 'SteveC'   (16 Dec 2008 @ 8:07)
Re: How does that work John!  by 'John'   (16 Dec 2008 @ 11:23)
They'll do the sensible thing John!  by 'SteveC'   (17 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)
What was your suggestion Nik? nt  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:00)
Re: One last time!  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:11)
Re: One last time!  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:28)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 11:55)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 12:10)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 12:19)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'MarkW'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 12:37)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: One last time! - DavyBoy  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 12:59)
Re: One last time!  by 'SimonS'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
I was hoping you'd have a realistic and workable..  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:14)
Re: One last time!  by 'sinky'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 23:02)
So suggest something Chris? nt  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:05)
Re: So suggest something Chris? nt  by 'chriskasch'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 15:51)
Not quite true!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:08)
Re: Not quite true!  by 'chriskasch'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:26)
Will it though?  by 'SteveC'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:03)
Re: Steve, you really are testing my patience  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 13:28)
Re: Steve, you really are testing my patience  by 'speedyman'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 14:42)
I agree!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: Steve, you really are testing my patience  by 'colin'  << You are here!
Re: Colin  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 15:10)
Re: Colin - tyres may not need changing  by 'John'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 15:18)
Re: Colin - tyres may not need changing  by 'gez65'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 19:08)
Re: Tyres  by 'pccsystems'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 22:19)
Re: Tyres  by 'JENK'   (12 Dec 2008 @ 23:56)
Re: Tyres  by 'dth07'   (14 Dec 2008 @ 9:35)
Not well enough to catch on!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:39)
What would happen to the tyres in between meetings  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:32)
Easy Kart and Club 100 started off doing it!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:30)
You're right Colin and I think John knows......  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:28)
John your ideas only have the base of an idea!  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:19)
Re: John your ideas only have the base of an idea!  by 'Marc'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 15:26)
Re: John your ideas only have the base of an idea!  by 'rotaxmxr'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 17:23)
Re: John your ideas only have the base of an idea!  by 'davidmc'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 18:55)
Re: John your ideas only have the base of an idea!  by 'Marc'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 22:00)
Rotax Max caters for too wide an audience  by 'SteveC'   (16 Dec 2008 @ 8:14)
ps When are you proposing your ideas to.......  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:21)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'Jasper'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 10:34)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'Inter61'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:39)
Mmm, I think some of those ideas could be.....  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:46)
Re: Mmm, I think some of those ideas could be.....  by 'davidmc'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:58)
How do the MSA raise funds?  by 'SteveC'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 11:43)
Re: How do the MSA raise funds?  by 'Jasper'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 12:15)
In defence of the MSA...........  by 'alanrr'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 15:07)
Re: In defence of the MSA...........  by 'Jasper'   (16 Dec 2008 @ 9:52)
Re: What worries me is! ... reflection and ideas  by 'BennICC06'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 13:28)
Re: What worries me is! ... ALTERATION  by 'BennICC06'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)
Re: What worries me is! ... ALTERATION  by 'colin'   (15 Dec 2008 @ 14:20)
Re: What worries me is!  by 'andy140770'   (02 Jan 2009 @ 3:38)

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