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I can see why you think these solutions John!
Posted by 'SteveC' on 10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40

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I don't think you've ever worked with them tho' and their impracticalities!

1 Importing on a lesser scale increases costs not reduces it!
Using a harder tyre can have a less competitive life as it goes off quicker!

2 I think this is going to be very difficult logistically and most Clubs are just not set up to do this, as you point out space wise, manpower would be a serious problem as they only just scrape enough people to marshal, let alone bag tyres and man a parce ferme! The bagging costs and manpower at S1 are covered in the cost of the tyres, but once you've reduced this cost which is your aim then the you can't afford to bag them or man a parce ferme!

3 I've yet to see this work well because of variations in weight, tracks. Maybe it could but we've put some serious effort into making this work with limited success!

I think the theory behind what you're proposing looks great John, but every time I've seen your suggestions in reality they've never worked despite a considerable will to make them do so!

I think it's a mistake to separate rules for Club and Championship and I do think we need to reduce the cost of both and I like you would like to see more tyre testing and one that would suit the UK more, I'd also like people to realise that joining a team at Club level isn't necessary and we need to go back to promoting individual, not expensive teams!

Until the 'team mentality' problem is tackled costs will not effectively come down!

ps that's not a dig at teams, they are only supplying what people think they need, we all need to work on proving they don't need a big team too early!

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'Dandino' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)

REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES by 'michaelg36' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'alanrr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)

Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt) by 'alanrr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'PGB' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'buzzinrussell' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)

Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)

abkc!!!!!!! by 'colin' (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'chriskasch' (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'John' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin ! by 'QuickOldTimer' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)

I can see why you think these solutions John! by 'SteveC' << You are here!

I think you have a point, however this is not..... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Trev' (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'rotaxmxr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)

Back to the original debate, by 'RichyC' (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'rotaxmxr' (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'rotaxmxr' (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)

Re: Back to the original debate, by 'chriskasch' (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'SimonS' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:29)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)

This board is not an abkc forum! by 'SteveC' (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)

What a load of rubbish! by 'SteveC' (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Zoesdad' (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'SimonS' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)

Re: abkc!!!!!!! by 'Zoesdad' (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)

The ABkC is hardly rife with politics! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)

Fixed gearing is difficult! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)

Re: Fixed gearing is difficult! by 'Zoesdad' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)

Limitations of clubs SRs by 'Zoesdad' (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)

Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM by 'paulklaassen' (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Tbag' (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Graham S' (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 6:51)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'Graham S' (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)

Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)

That's not fair John! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)

Re: That's not fair John! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)

Bloody hell! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)

Re: Bloody hell! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)

Oy! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)

Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'SteveC' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'Zoesdad' (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'John' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)

Re: Of course Members are a type of customer! by 'iant' (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)

When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests.... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)

Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests by 'iant' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)

As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by.. by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)

Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by 'KevinW' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)

I hope you're right and history is wrong! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)

Re: Tyro by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)

Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will. by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)

Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)

They were doing that long before any recession! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)

Re: They were doing that long before any recession by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)

No, I'm not yet convinced John! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)

Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John! by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)

I know you're trying (pardon the pun), by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)

Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun), by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)

Nice try John! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)

Re: Nice try John! by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)

John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly....... by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)

Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly... by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)

I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve.... by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)

Graham's pointed out a good solution! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)

Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)

I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)

Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking by 'John' (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)

You give up too easy John! by 'SteveC' (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)

Harder tyres may not be the answer! by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)

Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer! by 'John' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)

I think that's word for word what........ by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)

Re: I think that's word for word what........ by 'alanrr' (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)

If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what...... by 'SteveC' (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)

Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what..... by 'alanrr' (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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