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Re: That's not fair John!
Posted by 'John' on 09 Dec 2008 @ 12:50


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Steve you say “That’s not fair” and you are correct in this case, I apologise to Graham.

However I think we may well have a real problem with Club numbers next year.

You say “...........needs not to create other problems by doing so which drive the costs higher by default!”

Whilst I agree with that statement I cannot see how any of my three thoughts will do that, but I may be wrong? Which is why an ABkC review would have been beneficial.

I have to say that I hope it’s not just me that thinks karting will suffer during this recession.

On the “customer” point I cannot agree with you, I have spoken personally to two club chairmen in the past few weeks and both agree that there Clubs indeed to improve their customer focus and have plans in place to do so.

The cost gap between Super1, Stars etc and simple Club racing is just not there, I believe if we can activity reduce the cost of club racing, using my ideas and any others considered appropriate, whilst leaving S1 and Stars to do their own thing, all of karting will benefit. Do you think Formula Ford should cost the same as F1?

If a club racer can reduce the cost of his tyre bill by a third and extend the rebuild interval of his engine by a factor of two, how does this not benefit all of karting?

Now as far as I can see at the moment the only thing that is stopping these changes next year is the ABkC and the MSA.

How is it that Max and FIA can see a problem coming and we cannot?

Finally, if we cannot discuss the future of karting on here where do we? the last thing I want to say next year is I told you so. I would much rather me castigated for crying wolf!

Message Thread:

Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:17)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'Dandino'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:23)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:36)
REMOVE all overseas BRIT CHAMP RACES  by 'michaelg36'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:54)
Hm, I've invented a new word! (nt)  by 'alanrr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 13:56)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'PGB'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:26)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'buzzinrussell'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:35)
Re: Come on let’s have a real debate!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 14:41)
abkc!!!!!!!  by 'colin'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'chriskasch'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 16:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:17)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 20:32)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'John'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:36)
Re: abkc!!!!!!! Please think again Colin !  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:59)
I can see why you think these solutions John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:40)
I think you have a point, however this is not.....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:43)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Trev'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 21:50)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:27)
Back to the original debate,  by 'RichyC'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:10)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 23:24)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 0:19)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'rotaxmxr'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)
Re: Back to the original debate,  by 'chriskasch'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 23:41)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:29)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:45)
This board is not an abkc forum!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:00)
What a load of rubbish!  by 'SteveC'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 9:56)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (07 Dec 2008 @ 21:25)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'SimonS'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:47)
Re: abkc!!!!!!!  by 'Zoesdad'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 19:55)
The ABkC is hardly rife with politics!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 10:46)
Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:26)
Re: Fixed gearing is difficult!  by 'Zoesdad'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:47)
Limitations of clubs SRs  by 'Zoesdad'   (05 Dec 2008 @ 22:59)
Re: Cheaper tyres for TKM  by 'paulklaassen'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 10:08)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (06 Dec 2008 @ 11:38)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Tbag'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (08 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 6:51)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'Graham S'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: Over to you ABkC - its our future!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:35)
That's not fair John!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 11:56)
Re: That's not fair John!  by 'John'  << You are here!
Bloody hell!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:04)
Re: Bloody hell!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
Oy!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:55)
Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'SteveC'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:37)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:09)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'Zoesdad'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'John'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:06)
Re: Of course Members are a type of customer!  by 'iant'   (09 Dec 2008 @ 15:04)
When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests....  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:54)
Re: When TKM TAG arrives history strongly suggests  by 'iant'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:36)
As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called by..  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 9:53)
Re: As did 100 Britain (B) whatever it was called  by 'KevinW'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:01)
I hope you're right and history is wrong!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Tyro  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)
Absolutely, sadly there doesn't seem to be a will.  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)
Shame you didn't propose it at the agm! nt  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:50)
They were doing that long before any recession!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 8:48)
Re: They were doing that long before any recession  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:48)
No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:56)
Re: No, I'm not yet convinced John!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 11:10)
I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:36)
Re: I know you're trying (pardon the pun),  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:53)
Nice try John!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:26)
Re: Nice try John!  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 7:24)
John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly.......  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: John, I've explained the reasons thoroughly...  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 11:01)
I'm not fired up, I believe that won't resolve....  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Graham's pointed out a good solution!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 18:24)
Re: FIA/FOTA agree on cost-cuts  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 12:39)
I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking at  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: I think the MSA and the ABkC should be looking  by 'John'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 15:08)
You give up too easy John!  by 'SteveC'   (11 Dec 2008 @ 17:01)
Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:22)
Re: Harder tyres may not be the answer!  by 'John'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:42)
I think that's word for word what........  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: I think that's word for word what........  by 'alanrr'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 15:02)
If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what......  by 'SteveC'   (10 Dec 2008 @ 17:40)
Re: If you'd lived in Sheffield and seen what.....  by 'alanrr'   (13 Dec 2008 @ 18:52)

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