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Re: Tax
Posted by 'itpro' on 04 Dec 2008 @ 11:16


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So..... what do you think the OVERALL effect of reducting cigarette smoking IS on 'tax'....

As USUAL, you look JUST at the 'Sun/Miror/Express' version of the facts!

YES, reducing smoking DOES reduce PART of the health bill by making people live longer......... but NOT the OVERALL COSTS!

People who die young through smoking S*A*V*E the country money! They would EVENTUALLY DIE OF SOMETHING ELSE! They will have gone through EQUALLY expensive treatments for that OTHER illness which finally kills them ...

.....AND they will have had MORE TIME to have OTHER ILLNESSES AS WELL which ALSO COST MONEY! If they died young, they would NOT have been a cost for those OTHER illnesses as well!

Secondly, they will NOT have been paid a PENSION for the last years of their life if they die at 40 from smoking!

All the studies seem to show that reducing smoking COSTS the 'taxman' money, overall, even when taking into account the extra tax they would have paid had they lived! If smoking killed 20 year olds who might have had a 40 year 'tax-paying' life left, then it MIGHT save the 'taxman' money but that is NOT what happens. It tends to kill people towards the END of their 'tax paying' lives and the costs of their remaining years outweigh the tax they WOULD have PAID!

Try looking at the WIDER picture just ONCE in your life!!

If the Government WANT more tax, they can do it with the stroke of a PEN! They do not NEED to use this sort of PATHETIC suggestion of 'subterfuge'. Damn it, they are about to add BILLIONS to our tax bill (in 13 months) and you have not done a LOT of whining about THAT!

Ian

Message Thread:

becuase the debate is NOT over  by 'singers'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 16:40)
leased resistence?  by 'alanrr'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 18:00)
Re: leased resistence? Tee hee!  by 'itpro'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 20:23)
Re: leased resistence? Tee hee!  by 'vic'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 7:38)
can i get a rewind  by 'singers'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 9:23)
this old nugget again.....  by 'Tmoon'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:54)
it was this guy!  by 'singers'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 15:15)
oh yeh and where's global warming this year?  by 'singers'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 16:01)
Re: oh yeh and where's global warming this year?  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 17:12)
As requested by Ian ..a reply from Australia  by 'Chad'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 2:57)
Re: As requested by Ian ..a reply from Australia  by 'itpro'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 10:34)
Re: oh yeh and where's global warming this year?  by 'Tmoon'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 17:52)
Re: it was this guy!  by 'DanXP1'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 19:00)
Dan  by 'Chad'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 2:46)
things are changing, rapidly  by 'singers'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 11:29)
read this  by 'singers'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 11:30)
simple conclusions ..  by 'Chad'   (01 Dec 2008 @ 22:35)
Re: simple conclusions ..  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 16:42)
A serious question for the climate change cynics  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 18:42)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'DanXP1'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 18:59)
Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'RoadRat'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 19:22)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:12)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'davidmc'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:19)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:42)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'davidmc'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:48)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 0:09)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 0:57)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 11:45)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 12:50)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 10:55)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:18)
First, hell can freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 19:49)
Re: First, hell can freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 10:54)
Re: First, hell can freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'davidmc'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 11:50)
Re: First, hell can freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 16:55)
Re: First, hell can freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 19:03)
David.... I hope you are reading his replies!  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 21:17)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 11:18)
Re: Thames forecast to freeze this winter!!!!!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:30)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'RoadRat'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 19:29)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'DanXP1'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 20:04)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:16)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:31)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 23:28)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 0:21)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 0:47)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 10:06)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 11:49)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:28)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 17:20)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 17:49)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 18:25)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 19:25)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 19:37)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 19:57)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 11:04)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'davidmc'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 12:02)
Re: A serious question for the climate change cyni  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 17:34)
Stunned again!  by 'itpro'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:18)
Re: Stunned again!  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 11:07)
Re: Stunned again!  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:22)
QOT.....  by 'Tmoon'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 11:59)
re: qot.....  by 'DanXP1'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:35)
re: qot.....  by 'davidmc'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 17:28)
Dan  by 'itpro'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 17:59)
Tax  by 'Tmoon'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 10:57)
Re: Tax  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Tax  by 'davidmc'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 12:07)
Re: Tax  by 'Tmoon'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 14:27)
Re: Tax  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 16:57)
Again  by 'Canceric'   (02 Dec 2008 @ 22:03)
Re: Again  by 'DanXP1'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: Again  by 'Tmoon'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 16:30)
Re: Again  by 'RoadRat'   (03 Dec 2008 @ 19:33)
Re: Again  by 'itpro'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 11:19)
Re: Again  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Dec 2008 @ 19:07)

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