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Re: itpro
Posted by 'MattBell' on 25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01


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I get what your saying, but its there for everyone to be done so no one is gaining an advantage from it so i dont see the problem. And as for the esses at clay i completely disagree about it makes it easier for less skilled drivers, cause it does not! Them kerbs through the chicane have to be hit in a certain way to make it effective, its not as simple as just riding over them otherwise i would completely agree with you, and iv driven more laps round clay than most people before and after the changes.

As far as im concerned i think the rule should you can only have 2 wheels over the white line as soon as four wheels are over you have left the track. (this fair point does make the exit to the first corner at kim illegal at the first corner) BUT like everything we as drivers push limits and will use every bit of circuit avalible to be fast, thats just the mentality of it all. For example at kim all they have to do is have grass before the barrier or somthing similar and no one will touch it, fact is its tarmac its unfortunate that the white line is not on the so called "run off" but its quicker so you do it. (please dont call it cheating because it really is not cheating) cheating is cutting a corner with four wheels (which is very very rare)

Il give you an example of one track that tried to immplement this rule. Buckmore Park, oviously as most people know one of the most technical tracks in the country. why? because if you dont use the kerbs correctly you wont be fast, its something that makes the track such a joy to drive.

Anyway one meeting there they were doing exactly what you cant do, and said the track is in between the white line anyone who consistently uses more will be excluded, soo they excluded people gave points etc. This ended up in protests and races staying in formation for the start of a race because they said it was ridiculous.

Rule should be - only 2 wheels over the white line 3/4 of the kart basically, which to be honest IMHO is all that is needed.

Matt

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro.  by 'raceinstructor'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)
This isn't new.  by 'DavyBoy'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)
not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'SimonS'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)
Re: not every circuit  by 'andrewf'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'raceinstructor'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)
Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)
Tripe  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'DavyBoy'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)
Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)
So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)
Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)
And......  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)
4 ie whole of the kart!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)
Ahhhh haaa!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)
I don't know if I agree or disagree with.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)
I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)
Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)
You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)
Re: You can't have a rule that covers all.......  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)
Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)
That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)
Re: That's TRIPE Steve!  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Historic, exactly!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)
I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)
Re: I knew you'd missed the point!  by 'itpro'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)
Not same size, but same shape!  by 'SteveC'   (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)
Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve!  by 'itpro'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)
Play on words Ian!  by 'SteveC'   (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)
I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: seriously can't see what the fuss...  by 'SimonS'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:29)
When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced  by 'RobWallace'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)
Lucky it's only a disc protector.  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)
HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'DavyBoy'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'alanrr'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)
Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)
Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)
I don't need to re write it,........  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)
Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)
Your inconsistencies are STUNNING!  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)
You saying Tony Temple........  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)
ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'SteveC'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)
Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony.....  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Rules with discretion are because no two.......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)
RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)
Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'RoadRat'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)
Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'rotaxmxr'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'davidmc'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)
DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)
Re: DavidMc  by 'davidmc'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)
Re: DavidMc  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)
Re: RotaxMxr  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)
itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)
Re: itpro  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)
How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)
Re: How unusual!  by 'Florent'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)
Re: How unusual!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)
You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)
Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy!  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)
Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)
cont..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)
Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,......  by 'SteveC'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,....  by 'Florent'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)
English culture lessons for free!  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)
Re: Is.....  by 'Aztech'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)
It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like...  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)
Re: Thats quite funy Steve...  by 'Aztech'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)
I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but......  by 'SteveC'   (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)
Re: itpro  by 'itpro'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)
Re: itpro  by 'NJB'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)
Re: lol  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)
Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'broke'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'RoadRat'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'MattBell'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'DanXP1'   (24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38)
Some answers to this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)
Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it  by 'adey8ball'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)
re the Clay chicane  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)
Matt  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)
Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'itpro'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)
Re: itpro  by 'MattBell'  << You are here!
Re: Mat  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)
Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc..  by 'DanXP1'   (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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