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Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it
Posted by 'DanXP1' on 24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38

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‘If a kerb is damaging your kart why would you be riding it’

Because riding that kerb reduces your lap time! The drivers with the budget to replace their chassis every three meetings can drive a line that is quicker than the line taken by drivers forced by their budget to be more mechanically sympathetic to their karts.

Hitting and running any kerb regardless of its severity, causes impact and vibrations that damage and massively reduce the life of the following components; frame, stubs axles, king pins, wheel bearings, floor tray, seat, engine, engine mount, sprocket, chain, brake disc and axle bearings.

This has everything to do with cost, as does being forced by regulation to purchase and repeatedly replace as it wears, a disc protector. How can you say otherwise?

Kerbs were added to race tracks to prevent dangerous ruts forming off the edge of the track when karts/cars accidentally run wide. They were never intended to be consistently driven over and become part of the racing line, hence the raised serrated design.

The white line rule is very specific in only penalising repeated deliberate corner cutting, occasionally accidentally running wide or leaving the track to avoid a crash is fine. The white line rule along with no contact driving absolutely can be enforced, the marshal/observer simply reports any driver that consistently cuts the corner or makes contact to the CoC. There is no grey area and marshals and observers are judges of fact for this reason.

Clamp down on this type of behaviour and driving standards will certainly improve. At the moment there is no deterrent for drivers not to make contact or corner cut etc. If drivers knew they would be excluded, then this behaviour will stop.

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro. by 'raceinstructor' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)

This isn't new. by 'DavyBoy' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)

not every circuit by 'andrewf' (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'SimonS' (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'andrewf' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'QuickOldTimer' (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'raceinstructor' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)

Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)

Tripe by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)

So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)

Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)

And...... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)

4 ie whole of the kart! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)

Ahhhh haaa! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)

I don't know if I agree or disagree with....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with...... by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)

I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)

You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)

Re: You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)

Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........ by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)

That's TRIPE Steve! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)

Re: That's TRIPE Steve! by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Historic, exactly! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)

I knew you'd missed the point! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)

Re: I knew you'd missed the point! by 'itpro' (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)

Not same size, but same shape! by 'SteveC' (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)

Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve! by 'itpro' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)

Play on words Ian! by 'SteveC' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)

I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'SimonS' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:29)

When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)

Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'RobWallace' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)

Lucky it's only a disc protector. by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)

HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'alanrr' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)

Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)

I don't need to re write it,........ by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)

Your inconsistencies are STUNNING! by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)

You saying Tony Temple........ by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)

ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)

Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Rules with discretion are because no two....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)

RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)

Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)

Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)

DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: DavidMc by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)

Re: DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)

itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)

Re: itpro by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)

How unusual! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)

Re: How unusual! by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)

Re: How unusual! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)

You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)

Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)

cont.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)

Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,...... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)

English culture lessons for free! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)

Re: Is..... by 'Aztech' (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)

It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)

Re: Thats quite funy Steve... by 'Aztech' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)

I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but...... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)

Re: lol by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)

Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'broke' (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'RoadRat' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' << You are here!

Some answers to this. by 'DavyBoy' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'adey8ball' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)

re the Clay chicane by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)

Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)

Re: itpro by 'MattBell' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: Mat by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)

Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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