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Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it
Posted by 'DanXP1' on 24 Nov 2008 @ 19:36

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Kerbing causes undue wear or damages almost every component on a kart; frame, stubs axles, king pins, wheel bearings, floor tray, seat, engine, engine mount, sprocket, chain, brake disc and axle bearings.

In a time when everyone is calling for cost reduction in karting, complaining about the additional expense of junk disc protectors and the white line rule is unequivocal, why does any reasoned and logical person want to run over the kerbs?

The answer is simple; taking the kerbs reduces lap times, the white line rule is not enforced, so every driver must take the kerbs to be competitive.

Karting did without heavy duty bodywork and disc protectors for fifty years because CoCs were tough in enforcing against contact driving and corner cutting. As F1 has set a bad example and the CoCs have got softer, driving standards have got worse.

To say that it is impossible to enforce the white line rule is absurd nonsense. When a marshal or observer spots a kart racing with a dragging broken bumper or exhaust hanging off, they radio to the CoC and the kart is flagged off the track. So why can’t karts ramming or corner cutting be noted by the officials and be reported to the CoC?

If every driver knew they risk exclusion, then corner cutting to gain a time advantage would stop over night, driving standards would improve and there would be no need for stupid, expensive bolt on disc protectors.

Message Thread:

Spot on Itpro. by 'raceinstructor' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:09)

This isn't new. by 'DavyBoy' (22 Nov 2008 @ 8:48)

not every circuit by 'andrewf' (22 Nov 2008 @ 9:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'SimonS' (22 Nov 2008 @ 21:46)

Re: not every circuit by 'andrewf' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:12)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (22 Nov 2008 @ 22:27)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'QuickOldTimer' (22 Nov 2008 @ 23:06)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:08)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 0:16)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'raceinstructor' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:18)

Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:06)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:23)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:07)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 19:51)

Tripe by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:03)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:27)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:19)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 10:53)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:51)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:00)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'DavyBoy' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:18)

Re: Old timers have seen what HAPPENS if you.... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:15)

So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:38)

Re: So this is the rule that can't be relaxed! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:04)

And...... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:13)

4 ie whole of the kart! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:13)

Ahhhh haaa! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:30)

I don't know if I agree or disagree with....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Re: I don't know if I agree or disagree with...... by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:34)

I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:39)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:52)

Re: I'd have to hypothetically see the drivers by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:50)

You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:44)

Re: You can't have a rule that covers all....... by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:01)

Luckily every CoC in the Country is using........ by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:39)

That's TRIPE Steve! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:08)

Re: That's TRIPE Steve! by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Historic, exactly! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:43)

I knew you'd missed the point! by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:35)

Re: I knew you'd missed the point! by 'itpro' (26 Nov 2008 @ 16:42)

Not same size, but same shape! by 'SteveC' (27 Nov 2008 @ 10:57)

Wrong........... yet AGAIN, Steve! by 'itpro' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:12)

Play on words Ian! by 'SteveC' (28 Nov 2008 @ 12:33)

I would be enforcing them as per MSA regs! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:40)

Re: seriously can't see what the fuss... by 'SimonS' (23 Nov 2008 @ 9:29)

When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 11:48)

Re: When has the 'rule' ever been enforced by 'RobWallace' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:35)

Lucky it's only a disc protector. by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 13:46)

HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:32)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:02)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'DavyBoy' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:04)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:09)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'alanrr' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:07)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:20)

Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:46)

Re: Tony hasn't CoC'd at Kim for over..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:45)

I don't need to re write it,........ by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:17)

Re: HUNDREDS of time..... by GOOD cocs by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:01)

Your inconsistencies are STUNNING! by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:06)

You saying Tony Temple........ by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:41)

ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'SteveC' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:42)

Re: ps As Junior British Team Manager Tony..... by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Rules with discretion are because no two....... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 8:23)

RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 17:58)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 18:25)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:13)

Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'RoadRat' (23 Nov 2008 @ 22:47)

Re: Of course 'Pierre' would get away with it!! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:04)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:07)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 20:18)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'rotaxmxr' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:14)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (23 Nov 2008 @ 21:29)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 9:36)

DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: DavidMc by 'davidmc' (24 Nov 2008 @ 12:15)

Re: DavidMc by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:30)

Re: RotaxMxr by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 2:17)

itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 8:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 11:09)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:39)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 13:57)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:27)

Re: itpro by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 14:51)

How unusual! by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:01)

Re: How unusual! by 'Florent' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:13)

Re: How unusual! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:52)

You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:25)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 12:11)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:25)

Behave Ian, Florent is a great guy! by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:52)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:15)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:23)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:28)

Re: You forgot Number 9 Florent! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:32)

cont.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:34)

Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,...... by 'SteveC' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:50)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:19)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:25)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:32)

Re: Ian is actually neither laughable nor sad,.... by 'Florent' (25 Nov 2008 @ 14:37)

English culture lessons for free! by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 15:16)

Re: Is..... by 'Aztech' (25 Nov 2008 @ 22:30)

It's exciting, it's waht it must have been like... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 9:57)

Re: Thats quite funy Steve... by 'Aztech' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:03)

I could do it in a Jonathan Woss accent, but...... by 'SteveC' (26 Nov 2008 @ 10:47)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (24 Nov 2008 @ 16:54)

Re: itpro by 'NJB' (24 Nov 2008 @ 17:26)

Re: lol by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 18:42)

Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' << You are here!

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'broke' (24 Nov 2008 @ 19:57)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:10)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:21)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'RoadRat' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:41)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 20:55)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'MattBell' (24 Nov 2008 @ 21:42)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'DanXP1' (24 Nov 2008 @ 22:38)

Some answers to this. by 'DavyBoy' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:20)

Re: Kerbing only ok cos drivers get a way with it by 'adey8ball' (25 Nov 2008 @ 9:59)

re the Clay chicane by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:32)

Matt by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:35)

Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'itpro' (25 Nov 2008 @ 10:46)

Re: itpro by 'MattBell' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:01)

Re: Mat by 'QuickOldTimer' (25 Nov 2008 @ 11:13)

Matt + Re: Dan, Dave, RceInstr, etc.. by 'DanXP1' (25 Nov 2008 @ 13:14)

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