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Re: If only it WAS a game!
Posted by 'DavyBoy' on 12 Oct 2008 @ 09:15


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Ian, few climatologists will put the current erratic climate activity solely down to man-made global warming. La Nina, the current cooling the Pacific Ocean ie believed to be one of the biggest contributors to the last 10 years' behaviour. So to say people have already died with the same parallel to that of liver cirrhosis would be very far of the mark. I agree that the future prognosis of the pro-climate-change lobby is one of death and destruction, but there's nothing to date to evidence people dying of man-made climate change.

Its hard to know for sure that the cirrhosis that killed my uncle was alcohol induced but he did continue to drink small amounts socially over the last 4 years, a period when he was advised not to, and that meant whatever he did have was exacerbated. Not following the advice came home to roost. He was denied a liver transplant, in fact any kind of liver surgery [including implanting tissue donated by us his family], he was removed from the ICU, given a morphine pump and left to die. Didn't think 'decision morals' on a person's right to receive life saving teatment were a part of 21st medical practice, but they appear to be. Imagine a surgeon refusing to treat a gravely injured motorbike rider because he'd be riding too quickly ! Anyways, that's another debate.

Back to lighter matters... here's the original Fukker question :

" IF human existence causes climate change, then human existence has to be reduced not increased.

Let's say one person burning fossil fuels for one year causes damage of 100.

You're 56 years old and say you live for a further 21 years. If you continue the same burn rate as today, then you will create damage of 2,100. If you half it, you will create damage of 1,050. Pretty good until you consider this.

Mr. X up the street decides to have 3 kids. Each has a life expectancy of 77 years [actually it will probably be longer if they're born today]. If they're environmentally friendly and burn at half the rate, their existence will cause damage of 11,550 between them.

So, Mr. X's fukking will not only negate you climate consciousness... but exacerbate it by a factor of 10 !

IF you believe that humans are the cause... then you will need to properly address that cause... doing anything else will not work. "

Message Thread:

worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'kudos'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 0:27)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 1:19)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 7:17)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:20)
Why its better to do nothing.  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Why doing nothing will KILL you!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:25)
Twist again !  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Re: Twist again ! like we did last summer!!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:46)
Re: Twist again ! Hi Singers  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:54)
if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:11)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:56)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 19:11)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 22:54)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:36)
Vic... read my post again  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: Vic... read my post again...I have...  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:02)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'richydehav'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 8:40)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 9:46)
Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:37)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:22)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:33)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:38)
the Sun...  by 'Tmoon'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:54)
Re: Davy  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:58)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:11)
Re: Davy  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:39)
Re: Davy  by 'davidmc'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 18:44)
Re: Davy  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 19:29)
Singers  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:13)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:07)
Re: Davy  by 'davidmc'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:13)
Re: David  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:25)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:02)
Feck the drink !  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 21:31)
Nice try!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:15)
This is even more hilarious  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 7:52)
Re: This is even more hilarious  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 10:25)
Its only a game Ian...  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 18:34)
If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (11 Oct 2008 @ 15:05)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'  << You are here!
Climate spin.  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: Climate spin.  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:35)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:29)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 18:49)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 1:59)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 14:59)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 19:00)
Enough for now.  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 20:02)
Re: Enough for now.  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 20:07)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 19:02)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 2:09)
Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:28)
Re: Richy  by 'richydehav'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:38)
Re: Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:53)
Re: Richy  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:03)
Re: Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:10)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:47)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:43)
the sun hasn't been on in MONTHS!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:45)
That's funny!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:57)
only if  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:14)
Re: only if  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 16:00)
oh dear!!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 20:25)
But Singers....  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 20:53)
Oh Vic...... you missed the LATEST one!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 22:57)
Kudos.....  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: Kudos.....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:59)
you're right......  by 'Tmoon'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:13)
Hey Tmoon...... join in the 'game'!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:23)
Itpro  by 'TanglerTKM'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:43)
Re: Itpro  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:15)
Re: Itpro  by 'RoadRat'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 11:00)
RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 11:38)
Dr Tmoon  by 'Tmoon'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 14:52)
Re: Dr Tmoon  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:52)
Re: RoadRat  by 'RoadRat'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 16:11)
Re: RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (11 Oct 2008 @ 14:51)

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