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Posted by 'kudos' on 09 Oct 2008 @ 00:27


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........thread has reached it limits

to Ian and Vic, been a watcher for a few days, what puzzles me is you have plenty of ideas on the problem but seem lacking in how you convince the masses you are right, you both might be right but unless you can convince the majority you are then it is pointless ego posting

the rest is directed at vic, we had a long and enjoyable debate about experts and in the end you convinence me with good debate that the masses provide the best safety net..but in none of your posts you mentioned how to sell the ideal you believe right to them

my view(which has no backing from any "paper")

is we are to removed from what we do:

the rubbish fairy comes once a week

the poo fairy comes every time we flush the loo

the power fairy comes every time we switch something on

the western world has no understanding of "cause and effect", no understanding no problem, i have visited countries where they understand protecting their enviroment because it has direct affects on them if they dont

the green issue use to be very simple, if you wouldnt do in your own house/garden dont do it, personnel not global

what does make me laugh and cry is the new green policys, to keep it simple, if we agree cars should be as fuel saving as possible and the ones that are not are damaging all of us then introduce a max limit now, if you cant meet it it cant be sold

the current policy is liking letting the ones that can afford it, to smoke in a public place, subaru (cigar) yep thats is fine if you can afford it, if we are serious about reducing emissions then no car should be sold that exceeds a set limit

but what both you and Ian need to work on is how you sell your ideas to the people who vote and get them to vote for the best party to bring in the changes needed....you may be right but "power not truth" will win if you fail to convince the majority

look around your supermarkets, how many more people are using "reusable" bags, it not about being right or wrong but how it is sold

not saying you are wrong but is being right solving the problem

Message Thread:

worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'kudos'  << You are here!
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 1:19)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 7:17)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:20)
Why its better to do nothing.  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:08)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Why doing nothing will KILL you!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:25)
Twist again !  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Re: Twist again ! like we did last summer!!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:46)
Re: Twist again ! Hi Singers  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:54)
if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:11)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:56)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 19:11)
Re: if you can call NASA data fairy stories!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 22:54)
Re: Why its better to do nothing.  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:36)
Vic... read my post again  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:40)
Re: Vic... read my post again...I have...  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:02)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'richydehav'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 8:40)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 9:46)
Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:37)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:07)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:22)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:33)
Re: Davy  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:53)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:38)
the Sun...  by 'Tmoon'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:54)
Re: Davy  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:58)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:11)
Re: Davy  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:39)
Re: Davy  by 'davidmc'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 18:44)
Re: Davy  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 19:29)
Singers  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:13)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:07)
Re: Davy  by 'davidmc'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:13)
Re: David  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:25)
Re: Davy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:02)
Feck the drink !  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 21:31)
Nice try!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:15)
This is even more hilarious  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 7:52)
Re: This is even more hilarious  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 10:25)
Its only a game Ian...  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 18:34)
If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (11 Oct 2008 @ 15:05)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 9:15)
Climate spin.  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 10:09)
Re: Climate spin.  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:35)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:29)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 18:49)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 1:59)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 14:59)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 19:00)
Enough for now.  by 'DavyBoy'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 20:02)
Re: Enough for now.  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 20:07)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'RoadRat'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 19:02)
Re: If only it WAS a game!  by 'itpro'   (13 Oct 2008 @ 2:09)
Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:28)
Re: Richy  by 'richydehav'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:38)
Re: Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:53)
Re: Richy  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:03)
Re: Richy  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:10)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 11:09)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:47)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'RoadRat'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:32)
Re: worried the sun may not turn up tomorrow...  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:43)
the sun hasn't been on in MONTHS!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:45)
That's funny!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:57)
only if  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 15:14)
Re: only if  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 16:00)
oh dear!!  by 'singers'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 20:25)
But Singers....  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 20:53)
Oh Vic...... you missed the LATEST one!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 22:57)
Kudos.....  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:52)
Re: Kudos.....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 14:59)
you're right......  by 'Tmoon'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 17:13)
Hey Tmoon...... join in the 'game'!  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:23)
Itpro  by 'TanglerTKM'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 23:43)
Re: Itpro  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 0:15)
Re: Itpro  by 'RoadRat'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 11:00)
RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 11:38)
Dr Tmoon  by 'Tmoon'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 14:52)
Re: Dr Tmoon  by 'itpro'   (12 Oct 2008 @ 16:52)
Re: RoadRat  by 'RoadRat'   (10 Oct 2008 @ 16:11)
Re: RoadRat  by 'itpro'   (11 Oct 2008 @ 14:51)

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