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Nice try..... but a failure!
Posted by 'itpro' on 07 Oct 2008 @ 11:37


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itpro
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Nice try! You are attempting to show that a poor choice of 'cure' negates the existence of the 'illness'!

Yup...... I can follow that! Let's try a EXACT parallel which will let us test your theory.....

Because doctors used to use leeches (supposedly) to cure cancer and they FAILED to cure it..... that MUST prove that cancer doesn't exist.....

Are you SURE about that?

Even my CAT is able to see that such an argument is a JOKE!

Let's get REAL! We first need to know WHAT you are claiming. I'll put the 'points in some form of 'order'. You tell us which ones that you DO accept! State your case:

1) The Earth IS going through a period of increased atmospheric temperature
2) That change is GREATER than we were anticipating based on records
3) The start of the increase coincides with the start of the 'industrial age'
4) The 'coincidence' of those dates implies that they are DIRECTLY connected.
5) Completely acceptable evidence shows a plausible connection between 'industrial outputs' (e.g., CO2, methane, etc.) and the rise in atmospheric temperature
6) The QUANTITY of that evidence is SO large that, despite what I'd LIKE to believe, I have no choice BUT to accept the SOME of the temperature increase can be 'assigned' to man's influence, thus called 'anthropogenic warming'
7) The QUANTITY of that evidence now shows that a SIGNIFICANT part of global warming is 'anthropogenic'
8) The QUANTITY of that evidence is showing that the anthropogenic part of global warming will be SIGNIFICANTLY damaging for the survival of our existing number of humans on the planet!
9) We're all DOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!

When you tell us where you stand on this, I can move forward!

Ian

Message Thread:

Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:07)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'Booney'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 21:57)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'RoadRat'   (04 Oct 2008 @ 22:58)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DevonHawker'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:14)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:34)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 9:27)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:33)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:48)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 14:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'DevonHawker'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:52)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 16:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest. Booney  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:30)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'itpro'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 0:38)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'NikG'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 7:59)
Nik  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:04)
Re: Nik  by 'NikG'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 8:29)
Re: Nik  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:36)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'cobb22'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 8:11)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'Hootsman'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:24)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest: Cobb!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:08)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest: Cobb!  by 'cobb22'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 21:29)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'rmax'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 10:34)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DavyBoy'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:11)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest  by 'DevonHawker'   (05 Oct 2008 @ 12:20)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 2:19)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 7:46)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:41)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 8:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 10:50)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:22)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:54)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 11:51)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:02)
No wonder were all confused........  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 12:44)
Re: No wonder were all confused........  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:10)
Blob...  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:25)
Re: Blob...  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:31)
Now we are getting somewhere!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 13:20)
Re: Now we are getting somewhere!  by 'davidmc'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 18:02)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 14:15)
Re: Itpro Hornets Nest, Oh GOD, Davy!  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 15:40)
Let's move off this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 17:00)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'itpro'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 19:43)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'blobslosak'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 19:59)
A thousand to 1 or better?  by 'RoadRat'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:00)
I'll take that bet!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 21:55)
Re: A thousand to 1 or better?  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 0:51)
Monty Python...............................  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 8:35)
Re.Rat......  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:29)
Is Vic there ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:55)
No one expects the Climate Change Inquisition  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:52)
Re: No one expects the Climate Change Inquisition  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Re: Monty Python...............................  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:22)
Re: Monty Python...............................  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 11:45)
Oh dear....One phrase says it all.......  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Vic..... another classic  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:05)
Ian.....It was Eritosthanes (sp!)....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:30)
Re: Ian.....It was Eritosthanes (sp!)....  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:14)
aCLASSIC, And my last word to you!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'DavyBoy'   (06 Oct 2008 @ 20:49)
Re: Let's move off this.  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 1:07)
Prevarication  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:14)
Re: Prevarication........you said it!  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 9:39)
Sadly, Vic....... they will do EXACTLY that!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:20)
Re: Sadly, Vic....... they will do EXACTLY that!  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:58)
Please.....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 21:09)
Re: Please.....  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 21:53)
Time's running out!...  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 6:20)
Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 8:39)
What's that got to do with it ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 9:10)
Well, you brought it up........  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 10:15)
I don't believe I did !  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 11:53)
OK...  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 12:51)
Not OK... I'm DavyBoy... not davidmc !  by 'DavyBoy'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:12)
Davy......  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:27)
Yup..sorry....  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 10:39)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:46)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 17:05)
The undeniable proof of Global Warming!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:30)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:45)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 20:48)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 1:00)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'davidmc'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 9:00)
As an engineer myself...  by 'vic'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 12:55)
David  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:05)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:14)
Re: Well, the suns up.....and still no proof....  by 'itpro'   (09 Oct 2008 @ 13:21)
Re: Prevarication, tripe!  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:16)
Re: Prevarication, tripe... exactly !  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 10:46)
Nice try..... but a failure!  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: Yes... but a failure of what ?  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:02)
Re: Yes... but a failure of what ?  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 13:24)
I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 14:31)
Re: I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:09)
Re: I haven't changed my position Ian.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:08)
Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:27)
Where's the proof.  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 18:14)
Re: Where's the proof.  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:01)
Re: Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 22:04)
Re: Arghhhhhhhh.......  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:17)
Its not about 'belief'..  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 15:54)
Vic  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:16)
What vanity  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:39)
Re: What vanity  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:04)
It's all about belief and incidentally proof......  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:32)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 16:56)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'RoadRat'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:09)
Re: It's all about belief and incidentally proof..  by 'itpro'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:18)
Well.....  by 'vic'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:12)
Re: Its EXACTLY about 'belief'....  by 'DavyBoy'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 17:00)
Re: Its not about 'belief'..  by 'davidmc'   (07 Oct 2008 @ 22:25)
Re: Its not about 'belief'..  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 13:38)
Arrogance of your arguments  by 'RoadRat'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 14:11)
Re: Arrogance of YOUR arguments  by 'itpro'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 19:31)
Ah...something I can agree with  by 'vic'   (08 Oct 2008 @ 20:35)

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