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Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?
Posted by 'davidmc' on 15 Apr 2011 @ 13:01


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That argument takes us nowhere. So what if you can be below the speed limit and still be driving too fast for the conditions? That is no argument against the existence of speed limits in the first place. In fact, if reducing RTA's is the desired result the only logical conclusion to your argument is that speed limits are currently too high, eventually leading to the conclusion that motorised vehicles are too dangerous and the speed limit should be 0mph.

I have yet to see one argument that says speed limits should be removed, only that people don't like what some of those limits are, where some of those limits are and - the totally illogical argument - that they don't like how they are enforced (speed cameras). As such, arguing whether speed can ever be the sole cause of an accident is an intellectual irrelevance.

Whilst speed alone can never be the SOLE factor in the cause(s) of an accident, it certainly can be the SOLE DETERMINING factor, all other factors being equal. As Itpro has stated, any argument to the contrary is nothing more than sophistry and does says nothing about the affects of speed in relation to road safety.

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A question about Gatso's  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:05)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'Newshound'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:30)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:48)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:57)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'Trev'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:29)
Trev..... old wive's tale... mate!  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 2:57)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:53)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 15:01)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'itpro'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 15:25)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:48)
Ian, try the truncheon's mass viability......  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:00)
Your concept of 'know' and 'proof' is amusing.....  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 2:46)
sorry ian, you're WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  by 'alanrr'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 11:34)
Tripe.... unadulterated tripe!  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 12:38)
Re: Tripe.... unadulterated tripe!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 14:48)
I started to reply then I suddenly realised  by 'alanrr'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 17:28)
It's a good job you didn't reply......... (errmm.)  by 'itpro'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 1:09)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:14)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'PaulMRotax'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:23)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'richpudd2003'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:57)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'Newshound'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 18:08)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'PaulMRotax'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 18:48)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:13)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'PaulMRotax'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:29)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'richpudd2003'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:37)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'PaulMRotax'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:48)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:49)
I agree with you Matt...  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 20:44)
Re: I agree with you Matt...  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 20:49)
Look....lets get this straight!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:00)
Re: Look....lets get this straight!  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:13)
Booney  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 0:28)
Re: Booney  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 7:22)
Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE of .  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:22)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:25)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:48)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:53)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:12)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:19)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:30)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'Newshound'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:54)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:58)
There's also the fuel efficiency argument...  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 23:07)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 23:24)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'davidmc'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 0:00)
I got found 'not guilty' in a murder case.  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 0:54)
QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 2:30)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 7:32)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'davidmc'  << You are here!
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 14:46)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'davidmc'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 17:24)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 18:53)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'davidmc'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 19:25)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (16 Apr 2011 @ 10:02)
David  by 'itpro'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 1:28)
Re: QoT.... why do you SAY such daft things?  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 9:14)
Re: Exceeding the speed limit, is NEVER the CAUSE  by 'PaulMRotax'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 7:27)
Re: David  by 'Bod'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 12:51)
Re: David  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 21:53)
Re: David  by 'Bod'   (17 Apr 2011 @ 22:48)
Re: I agree with you Matt...  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:03)
Re: I agree with you Matt...  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:07)
Re: I agree with you Matt...  by 'Booney'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:20)
Re: I agree with you Matt...  by 'MattCortes'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:23)
Doink  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 2:51)
AND access to the Police database of registration  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:01)
Re: AND access to the Police database of registrat  by 'Doink'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:29)
You wanna bet? nt  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 23:01)
Doink....  by 'itpro'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 0:21)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'frak'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 23:00)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'alanrr'   (14 Apr 2011 @ 23:05)
Re: A question about Gatso's  by 'alanrr'   (15 Apr 2011 @ 11:39)

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