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Re: And the conclusion...
Posted by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan' on 03 Apr 2009 @ 21:29


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DanTheK1RaceGearMan
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So your conclusion is: because we can do s*d all about the other ones (or you can't see a way through) let's dedicate 100% of our energy behind what is not even the main (even if you add the two components, which can't be strictly added anyway) and just fixate on the only one thing that keeps us moving: SPEED.

Twisted logic Tangler.

Loss of control:
Is that AT , OVER or UNDER the speed limit?

Failing to look properly:
Maybe teaching people WHERE to look when dricing might stop them from being fixated on the boot of the car in front, or the short skirt passing by.

Travelling too fast for conditions - Well, do I need to say anything?
Yes, a bit of driver awareness, skid-pan, track-time, off road...

Careless, Reckless, in a hurry
Not a lot you can do about it, and reducing the speed limit on any road and any conditions won't solve that one! Being able and aware will though enable (read the two above) the others to spot the situation and avoid it! Like most of us do when we see an idiot (or indeed an emergency vehicle) approaching at stupid speeds!

Exceeding Speed limit - I've said a lot about that already.
You are right, you have, make yourself useful and change the subject.

It just struck me: you keep blaming John, me and others about not wanting to do anything about speeding because we "want to speed". Could it be that you don't want to do anything about the driver standards in case you fall foul of the law and have to re-test and fail?
I might have just spotted an incentive for all to drive better, safer and (if it needs to) slower!
Don't ask again please, I have already given MY solution to that one! And it is self financing!

Dan

Message Thread:

Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 9:04)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'davidmc'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:14)
David  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 11:37)
Re: David  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 11:32)
Re: Continued from SAFE SPEED thread.  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 13:06)
This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 15:54)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:11)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'PaulMRotax'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:31)
Paul  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:52)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:19)
Re: Paul  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 10:15)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 10:22)
Re: Paul  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:23)
Re: Paul  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:33)
Re: Still avoiding the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:41)
-John: still avoid the simple question itpro/tangl  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 17:47)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:35)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:54)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:59)
Re: -John: still avoid the simple question itpro/t  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 22:45)
Re: That just sums it up Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 7:56)
Re: That just sums it up Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:24)
Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:17)
Re: Dan.......  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:36)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:07)
Try thinking about it Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 18:58)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:24)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:26)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:39)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:51)
Re: ARE YOU thinking about it Tangler?  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:07)
*sigh*  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:08)
Re: Excuse me Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:26)
Re: Excuse me Tangler  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:16)
Re: Typical ipro - no interest in facts or context  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:29)
Re: Dan.......  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:38)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:38)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:09)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:53)
Re: Dan.......  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:09)
Re: Dan.......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:35)
I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU....  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 19:50)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:06)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:35)
where are we with this?  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 23:08)
Re: where are we with this?  by 'Booney'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 23:29)
Re: where are we with this?  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 7:40)
Ok...getting somewhere! Booney & Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:17)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:47)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:13)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:36)
Re: Now that is real progress Tangler!!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:57)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 8:15)
Re: Tangler  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:26)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 18:44)
Re: Tangler - well actually YES someone did die  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:41)
Re: Tangler - well actually YES someone did die  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:21)
For goodness sake Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:33)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:38)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:10)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:50)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 15:08)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:12)
Re: I'll answer YOUR question the first time YOU..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:30)
Re: Sorry I should have said..  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:15)
Re: Sorry I should have said..  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:53)
Re: So answer the question  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:59)
Re: So answer the question  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:13)
Gentlemen....I suggest you look here......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:08)
Re: Gentlemen....I suggest you look here......  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:37)
Re: Do be scientific  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 21:59)
Re: Do be scientific...get it right...  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:04)
Re: Do be scientific...get it right...  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 22:15)
john.....ahem  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:47)
Re: er Tangler no  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:08)
John....you're arguing against yourself now!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:27)
Re: no I'm not!!!  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:51)
Re: no I'm not!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 16:00)
Re: Try logic tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 17:32)
and i thought it was blue.....  by 'Avago'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:43)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 20:49)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 11:00)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'PaulMRotax'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 12:39)
I really can't understand.....  by 'vic'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 13:01)
Re: Unfortunately vic  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 17:01)
John will do his BEST to avoid this BUT.....  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:28)
Re: No he won't, put up or shut up  by 'JohnClucas'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 19:47)
Re: No he won't, put up or shut up  by 'itpro'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 20:10)
One for the mix  by 'Booney'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:24)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (02 Apr 2009 @ 23:55)
Re: One for the mix  by 'PaulMRotax'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 7:59)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 8:59)
Re: One for the mix  by 'PaulMRotax'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 11:17)
Re: One for the mix  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 16:10)
Re: One for the mix  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:00)
Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'Avago'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'Booney'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 17:33)
Re: Accidents are NOT accidents because....  by 'PaulMRotax'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 14:02)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'vic'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 12:51)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 14:36)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'vic'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 19:37)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:12)
Re: Telepathy or what!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:26)
Re: Unfortunately vic....  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:21)
Dan & John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:56)
Re: And the conclusion...  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'  << You are here!
The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 21:58)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:10)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:20)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:26)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:44)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:22)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:47)
Re: The reason speed is made an issue  by 'JohnClucas'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 19:38)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 21:37)
Re: Tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 22:05)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 12:42)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (04 Apr 2009 @ 14:19)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 0:01)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'TanglerTKM'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 8:57)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 13:21)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 17:47)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'TanglerTKM'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 18:38)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 20:05)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'JohnClucas'   (05 Apr 2009 @ 21:28)
Re:Enforce the things that matter  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (06 Apr 2009 @ 7:24)
Re: and what about consistency in punishment  by 'JohnClucas'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:47)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:37)
Re: This stuff is NOT complex!  by 'DevonHawker'   (03 Apr 2009 @ 20:48)

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