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Re: Christian
Posted by 'ChristianWood' on 14 Mar 2009 @ 03:00


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ChristianWood
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Except I don't find it morally acceptable to mug old ladies.

You have to laws in society, and you have to enforce these laws to keep order. This is an example, 70mph is roughly the upper limit that it is safe to travel at on motorways. So to maintain order on the roads, this limit must be enforced.

This is why I don't complain about receiving a speeding ticket if I get caught speeding, it's the law and it needs to be enforced to maintain order.

What I do object to though is people who link laws with some form of higher moral code.

Laws are there to create order, not to tell us what is morally right or wrong.

I drive to speeds I deem safe for the conditions, as I believe my own interpretation of the situation will be more accurate than a permanent limit installed to cover infinite different road conditions and rounded to the nearest 10mph.

This works both ways too. I won't drive at 30mph in a 30 limit if I don't see it is safe to do so. I'll go slower if neccesary.

In short, If I break the law, I break the law, I don't neccesarily act imorraly.

At the risk of sounding like a tw*t, I already know what your response is going to be, and could write out a refute in advance, but I need to go to bed now, so lets have your argument about endangering lives selfishly and needlessly and I'll get back to you later.

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road safety  by 'kudos'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:25)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:39)
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:54)
Re: road safety  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 6:49)
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:19)
Re: road safety  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 12:52)
Paul......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:39)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 8:34)
Re: Paul......  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 10:58)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 13:24)
Re: Paul......  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 15:05)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 20:00)
Re: road safety  by 'vic'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 8:01)
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:21)
Re: road safety  by 'JRed'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 11:13)
Re: road safety  by 'ChristianWood'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 16:54)
Christian  by 'itpro'   (13 Mar 2009 @ 18:24)
Re: Christian  by 'ChristianWood'  << You are here!
Re: Christian  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 14:36)
Re: Christian  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 15:03)
.... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:09)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:48)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:56)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'DavidG'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 16:21)
David G......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 17:31)
Re: David G......  by 'richpudd2003'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 18:06)
Rich.....  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 11:06)
Re: Rich.....  by 'richpudd2003'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 14:52)
Re: Rich.....  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 14:59)
Re: Rich.....  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (22 Mar 2009 @ 9:30)
Re: Rich.....  by 'DavidG'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 15:21)
Re: Christian  by 'vic'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 19:14)
Re: Christian  by 'ChristianWood'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 19:32)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 20:13)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 23:24)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 1:20)
Re: Christian  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 8:37)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 10:39)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 21:21)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 22:04)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 0:20)
dan,......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:24)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 20:47)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 23:35)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'vic'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 7:25)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 11:14)
Er....  by 'vic'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 6:39)
Re: Christian  by 'vic'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 21:50)
Re: Christian  by 'kudos'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 23:31)
Re: Christian  by 'richpudd2003'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 9:05)
Driver grading  by 'DevonHawker'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 12:32)
Re: Driver grading  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 21:19)
But Christian  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:01)
Re: Christian  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 20:20)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 22:14)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 22:25)
Re: road safety  by 'JohnClucas'   (25 Mar 2009 @ 22:34)
Re: road safety  by 'TanglerTKM'   (25 Mar 2009 @ 23:26)
Re: road safety  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (26 Mar 2009 @ 2:11)
Re: road safety  by 'JohnClucas'   (26 Mar 2009 @ 19:44)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 0:22)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 7:01)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 7:52)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 9:54)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 17:04)
John & Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 18:35)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:29)
JOhn  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:20)
Re: Tangler do read what I write  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:32)
Re: John & Dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:56)
Re: Dan - we ha' loved speed humps  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:21)
Tangler.....  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:14)
Re: Tangler.....  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 21:37)
John  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 23:42)
Re: itpro  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 13:39)
--- John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 18:29)
Re: --- John  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 19:17)
Re: --- John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 23:16)
Re: ---Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 19:37)
Re: ---Tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:08)
Re: --- Tangler  by 'itpro'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 2:38)
Re: --- Glad you agree with me itpro  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 20:01)
Speed controls dangerous!  by 'RoadRat'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:04)
Roadrat  by 'TanglerTKM'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:16)
Re: Roadrat  by 'RoadRat'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:42)
Re: Roadrat  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (30 Mar 2009 @ 8:20)
Re: Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 0:01)
Re: Dan  by 'RoadRat'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 8:35)
Re: Dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 8:35)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 20:11)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 20:46)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 0:31)
Re: tangler - do I take it that you don't believe  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:51)
Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:55)
Re: Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:38)
Re: Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 23:31)
Re: I wish I had itpro's skills  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 12:33)
Re: I wish I had itpro's skills  by 'itpro'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 0:56)
Re:Which facts were those?  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 19:26)
Re:Which facts were those?  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 1:53)
Re But like I said  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:57)

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