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Re: road safety
Posted by 'vic' on 12 Mar 2009 @ 08:01


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Ian...I think you failed to get the point of Kudos posting. He didn't come up with any figures of his own, he simply quoted from a published source.

The point (I think) that he was making is that concentrating on speed ALONE is an inadequate approach to reducing KSI's.

You know I am with you all the way in supporting the use of more cameras. However, I too feel that this is not the real answer...my feelings are that we need to change road users ATTITUDE. We need to improve training, and introduce regular tests for ALL drivers, to make sure that the improved training 'sticks'. Reducing speed limits has little effect unless we can enforce them. Cameras help to enforce them, but can only detect speed..not bad driving. More dedicated traffic police that can observe and report other examples of bad driving should be funded by the income from the cameras.

I think we should be SUPPORTIVE of anyone raising discussion om improving road safety...criticise their CONCLUSIONS if you must, not their intention.

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road safety  by 'kudos'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:25)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:39)
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:54)
Re: road safety  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 6:49)
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:19)
Re: road safety  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 12:52)
Paul......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:39)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 8:34)
Re: Paul......  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 10:58)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 13:24)
Re: Paul......  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 15:05)
Re: Paul......  by 'PaulMRotax'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 20:00)
Re: road safety  by 'vic'  << You are here!
Re: road safety  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:21)
Re: road safety  by 'JRed'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 11:13)
Re: road safety  by 'ChristianWood'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 16:54)
Christian  by 'itpro'   (13 Mar 2009 @ 18:24)
Re: Christian  by 'ChristianWood'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 3:00)
Re: Christian  by 'DavyBoy'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 14:36)
Re: Christian  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 15:03)
.... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:09)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:48)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:56)
Re: .... failed.....desperate attempts there......  by 'DavidG'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 16:21)
David G......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 17:31)
Re: David G......  by 'richpudd2003'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 18:06)
Rich.....  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 11:06)
Re: Rich.....  by 'richpudd2003'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 14:52)
Re: Rich.....  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 14:59)
Re: Rich.....  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (22 Mar 2009 @ 9:30)
Re: Rich.....  by 'DavidG'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 15:21)
Re: Christian  by 'vic'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 19:14)
Re: Christian  by 'ChristianWood'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 19:32)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 20:13)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 23:24)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 1:20)
Re: Christian  by 'DavyBoy'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 8:37)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 10:39)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 12:56)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 21:21)
Re: Christian  by 'TanglerTKM'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 22:04)
Re: Christian  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 0:20)
dan,......  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:24)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 20:47)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'TanglerTKM'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 23:35)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'vic'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 7:25)
Re: Caught you all with your pants down!!!  by 'itpro'   (17 Mar 2009 @ 11:14)
Er....  by 'vic'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 6:39)
Re: Christian  by 'vic'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 21:50)
Re: Christian  by 'kudos'   (15 Mar 2009 @ 23:31)
Re: Christian  by 'richpudd2003'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 9:05)
Driver grading  by 'DevonHawker'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 12:32)
Re: Driver grading  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 21:19)
But Christian  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:01)
Re: Christian  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 20:20)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 22:14)
Re: road safety  by 'kudos'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 22:25)
Re: road safety  by 'JohnClucas'   (25 Mar 2009 @ 22:34)
Re: road safety  by 'TanglerTKM'   (25 Mar 2009 @ 23:26)
Re: road safety  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (26 Mar 2009 @ 2:11)
Re: road safety  by 'JohnClucas'   (26 Mar 2009 @ 19:44)
John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 0:22)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 7:01)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 7:52)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 9:54)
Re: Tangler - I wish  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 17:04)
John & Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 18:35)
Re: Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:29)
JOhn  by 'TanglerTKM'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:20)
Re: Tangler do read what I write  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:32)
Re: John & Dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:56)
Re: Dan - we ha' loved speed humps  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:21)
Tangler.....  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:14)
Re: Tangler.....  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 21:37)
John  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 23:42)
Re: itpro  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 13:39)
--- John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 18:29)
Re: --- John  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 19:17)
Re: --- John  by 'TanglerTKM'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 23:16)
Re: ---Tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 19:37)
Re: ---Tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:08)
Re: --- Tangler  by 'itpro'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 2:38)
Re: --- Glad you agree with me itpro  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 20:01)
Speed controls dangerous!  by 'RoadRat'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:04)
Roadrat  by 'TanglerTKM'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:16)
Re: Roadrat  by 'RoadRat'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 22:42)
Re: Roadrat  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (30 Mar 2009 @ 8:20)
Re: Dan  by 'TanglerTKM'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 0:01)
Re: Dan  by 'RoadRat'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 8:35)
Re: Dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 8:35)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'JohnClucas'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 20:11)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (31 Mar 2009 @ 20:46)
Re: any chance, itpro and tangler  by 'TanglerTKM'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 0:31)
Re: tangler - do I take it that you don't believe  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:51)
Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 19:55)
Re: Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'JohnClucas'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 20:38)
Re: Tripe... John, complete TRIPE!  by 'itpro'   (27 Mar 2009 @ 23:31)
Re: I wish I had itpro's skills  by 'JohnClucas'   (28 Mar 2009 @ 12:33)
Re: I wish I had itpro's skills  by 'itpro'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 0:56)
Re:Which facts were those?  by 'JohnClucas'   (29 Mar 2009 @ 19:26)
Re:Which facts were those?  by 'itpro'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 1:53)
Re But like I said  by 'JohnClucas'   (01 Apr 2009 @ 10:57)

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