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Posted by 'itpro' on 18 Apr 2011 @ 17:29

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I can't see your justification for thinking that we'd make worse judicial decisions if they are based on commons-sense rather than the UTTERLY haphazard system used of: 'that was bl**dy lucky' that we use at the moment.

Personally, I'd assess the offences as follows:

1) should you have been in control?
2) Was the outcome of your 'failure' easily predictable?
3) Was the damage cuased by your actions (scale of: no injuries likely, some injuries possible, likely to cause death or injury, almost certain death... IF it all goes wrong)
3) did any of your actions/decisions/innactions make the effect of the 'harm' more likely? (e.g., lose it in the high street mid-afternoon of mother's day weekend, or out on a lonely, deserted Scottish moor)
4) other mitigating/damning evidence

That's a VERY quick 'rule of thumb' set of 'factors' and I'm sure many other will appear after deeper thought.

Whatever the set of 'rules' are, they are a DAMNED sight more consistent than our 'flip a coin' system at the moment.

I'd extend this further. I would NOT jail people for a longer term for stealing millions from a bank than I would for stealing loose change from a little old lady. I'd factor in the 'damage to society' from the crime, NOT the number of zeros in the figures. Yes, the BrinksMat Robbers were 'bad' but were they 30 times WORSE than a mugger who steals Ł10 from an old lady for his 10th 'fix' of the day?

I want a JUSTICE system..... not a gambling system based on the size of the haul!

Ian

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I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are high by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2011 @ 13:09)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 13:43)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:11)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:13)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 13:47)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'Newshound' (14 Apr 2011 @ 14:22)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2011 @ 15:16)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'JonWright' (14 Apr 2011 @ 15:43)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:29)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:36)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'Newshound' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:40)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:43)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:49)

Alan by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 16:54)

Re: Alan by 'Newshound' (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:49)

Re: Alan by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:57)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 17:48)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2011 @ 18:06)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:11)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'Newshound' (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:43)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 19:52)

Re: I wonder why youngster's insurance cost are hi by 'rich84' (14 Apr 2011 @ 20:15)

Rich by 'MattCortes' (14 Apr 2011 @ 20:42)

Re: Rich by 'Newshound' (14 Apr 2011 @ 20:46)

Itpro by 'Bod' (14 Apr 2011 @ 21:43)

Actually Mel, I do in fact have a lot of respect.. by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2011 @ 22:57)

Re: Itpro by 'PaulMRotax' (16 Apr 2011 @ 20:11)

PaulM by 'Bod' (17 Apr 2011 @ 10:58)

Bod.... by 'itpro' (20 Apr 2011 @ 11:48)

Re: Bod.... by 'PaulMRotax' (20 Apr 2011 @ 12:29)

Bod..... you need to think about it.... by 'itpro' (18 Apr 2011 @ 10:56)

Re: Bod..... you need to think about it.... by 'PaulMRotax' (18 Apr 2011 @ 11:07)

Re: Bod..... you need to think about it.... by 'itpro' (18 Apr 2011 @ 11:08)

Re: Bod..... you need to think about it.... by 'PaulMRotax' (18 Apr 2011 @ 12:55)

Re: Bod..... you need to think about it.... by 'Gillard77' (18 Apr 2011 @ 13:02)

Gillard by 'itpro' (18 Apr 2011 @ 17:38)

Re: Gillard by 'Gillard77' (18 Apr 2011 @ 19:19)

Re: Gillard by 'PaulMRotax' (18 Apr 2011 @ 20:46)

Re: Gillard by 'davidmc' (18 Apr 2011 @ 21:02)

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Re: Gillard by 'PaulMRotax' (19 Apr 2011 @ 7:26)

Re: Gillard by 'itpro' (19 Apr 2011 @ 10:09)

Re: Gillard by 'PaulMRotax' (19 Apr 2011 @ 11:59)

Re: Gillard by 'Gillard77' (19 Apr 2011 @ 12:10)

Re: Gillard by 'itpro' (19 Apr 2011 @ 20:05)

Re: Gillard by 'PaulMRotax' (19 Apr 2011 @ 21:25)

Itpro by 'Bod' (18 Apr 2011 @ 17:14)

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Re: Itpro by 'davidmc' (18 Apr 2011 @ 21:19)

Re: Itpro by 'itpro' (19 Apr 2011 @ 20:11)

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Re: Itpro by 'PaulMRotax' (19 Apr 2011 @ 21:14)

Re: Itpro by 'davidmc' (19 Apr 2011 @ 21:35)

Re: Itpro by 'PaulMRotax' (19 Apr 2011 @ 21:45)

Crime by 'MattCortes' (19 Apr 2011 @ 22:10)

Re: Itpro by 'davidmc' (19 Apr 2011 @ 23:26)

Re: Itpro by 'PaulMRotax' (20 Apr 2011 @ 7:35)

Re: Itpro by 'davidmc' (20 Apr 2011 @ 11:41)

Re: Itpro by 'itpro' (20 Apr 2011 @ 11:47)

Re: Itpro by 'PaulMRotax' (20 Apr 2011 @ 12:37)

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