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Re: I think what you are suggesting is....
Posted by 'itpro' on 01 Jun 2010 @ 10:31

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Sorry guys, you CANNOT know if you are right on this: if Vettel had completed the manouevre by braking late, then you CANNOT know if he'd have MADE the corner or simply overshot because of dirty tyres!

Webber was doing the PERFECT reaction; Vettel needed to move onto the 'clean' part of the track to complete the manouvre; braking on THAT line was likely to lead to an overshoot: hence Webber's attitude: "You WANTED the inside line.... ok.....it's your.... now let's see you make it WORK.....".

However, I think what happened was odd.... watch closely: Vettel is passing Webber at a CONSIDERABLE rate (plus 5 or 10 mph) until he's halfway past when the rate changes suddenly... probably because Vettel knows he needs to brake early and Webber knows that he DOESN'T as he has a 'clean' line.

Vettel can no longer SEE Webber who is slightly to the rear and Vettel thus.... from the HUGE rate he was passing Mark.....assumes he has MANAGED to COMPLETE the manouevre and is WELL passed Webber......

Vettel thus thought he WAS passed and thus could now move over onto the clean line...... but... as we know.... Webber was STILL THERE!

I have no axe to grind about either driver, I don't happen to much like Germans OR Aussies....

We are told that they ARE equal 'Number Ones' in the team: Mark therefore had NO reason to think that the WunderKind should be given preferential treatment..... and gave him NONE! Seb had tried a neat pass but he failed to CHECK that he HAD managed it and simply moved-over BEFORE the track was clear..... for me, the result was PERFECT..... Seb had MISJUDGED the 'pass' and paid for his bad-judgement..... Mark was UNFAIRLY penalised (by loss of two places) when this pretty damned 'arrogant' pass from a driver who was INCREASINGLY frustrated by an 'old man' TROUNCING him in THREE races.... he tried to put 'manners' on Mark...... and found that he has SEVERELY misjudged Marks UTTER DETERMINATION....

So long as Mark doesn't get sacked by a VERY miffed 'German Team', then Mark's actionas will have sent Seb the RIGHT message..... 'watch it, sonny.... I do not give way to KIDDIES! not even one who THINKS he's the WunderKind....'

Seb won't make THAT over-estimate again........

Ian

Message Thread:

What the hell.............. by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 14:06)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 14:07)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'alasdair' (30 May 2010 @ 14:12)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'richpudd2003' (30 May 2010 @ 14:14)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'Attack2001' (30 May 2010 @ 14:15)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 14:17)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'richpudd2003' (30 May 2010 @ 14:18)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'richpudd2003' (30 May 2010 @ 14:25)

Re: What the hell.............. by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 14:34)

Vettel Not cleanly past.... by 'jtthedevil' (31 May 2010 @ 1:13)

Re: Vettel Not cleanly past.... by 'AMB' (31 May 2010 @ 6:20)

I think what you are suggesting is.... by 'Chads' (31 May 2010 @ 23:42)

Re: I think what you are suggesting is.... by 'AMB' (01 Jun 2010 @ 9:51)

Re: I think what you are suggesting is.... by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: I think what you are suggesting is.... by 'AMB' (01 Jun 2010 @ 11:23)

Re: I think what you are suggesting is.... by 'chriskasch' (01 Jun 2010 @ 12:10)

Well, Chris...... by 'itpro' (01 Jun 2010 @ 18:43)

Re: Well, Chris...... by 'chriskasch' (01 Jun 2010 @ 19:43)

Re: Well, Chris...... by 'jtthedevil' (02 Jun 2010 @ 0:46)

I think Vettel took his hand off the wheel.. by 'alanrr' (01 Jun 2010 @ 20:41)

Re: I think Vettel took his hand off the wheel.. by 'Newshound' (01 Jun 2010 @ 21:00)

Re: I think Vettel took his hand off the wheel.. by 'chriskasch' (01 Jun 2010 @ 21:32)

Re: I think Vettel took his hand off the wheel.. by 'Newshound' (01 Jun 2010 @ 21:40)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'jfracing' (30 May 2010 @ 14:18)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'Doink' (30 May 2010 @ 15:24)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 15:31)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'Doink' (30 May 2010 @ 15:36)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 15:43)

Button got the measure of Hamilton by 'mark31' (30 May 2010 @ 17:09)

Re: Button got the measure of Hamilton by 'RotaxTim' (30 May 2010 @ 17:36)

Re: Button got the measure of Hamilton by 'Newshound' (30 May 2010 @ 18:10)

Red Bull blames Webber !! by 'Chads' (01 Jun 2010 @ 9:28)

Re: Red Bull blames Webber !! by 'itpro' (01 Jun 2010 @ 19:29)

Re: Most exciting lead battle in F1 for ages? (nt) by 'Doink' (30 May 2010 @ 16:38)

Hammy's long face on the podium was because.... by 'alanrr' (30 May 2010 @ 20:52)

gotta like that Chritian Horner .... by 'Tmoon' (02 Jun 2010 @ 14:08)

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