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Re: Questions for you Ian ?
Posted by 'DavyBoy' on 15 Apr 2010 @ 11:11

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Some very good points there Ian... and a lot I happen to agree with.

Young people [male and female] are less cognisant of the consequences of their actions than their older peers. That's prevelant throughout society - e.g. having kids when you're young etc. Its a difficult one to fix, but much of it can be laid at the door of poor parenting. What we haven't mentioned throughout this discussion is the fact that a vehicle is a lethal weapon, some far more dangerous than others. By dulling the the lethal capabilities of the weapon, it can be made safer. This is what I've been advocating in terms of massively reducing vehicle performance for new drivers.

I'm glad that you believe that people can be trained/educated. It would be sad if that weren't possible. Young people have far greater absorption capabilities than older people. In terms of driving, the education and test process is too curt. Much of it is irrelevant and too much is missing. It takes 10 years to become a doctor, a person capable of repairing injuries and just a few weeks to become a driver, a person capable of causing them. That's why I've been advocating significant changes to the education and test process.

Finally the world's best drivers. Yes I do mean Formula One racing drivers. Aside from their skill in controlling a vehicle at speed, they have phenomenal capabilities in observation, information processing and decision making all at very high speed... on a level far superior to you, I or even plod ! Their capabilities will deteriorate with age, that's a fact. This demonstrates that young males aren't useless when it comes to the elements and techniques necessary to be a skillful driver.

My point here is that to deride all young people, particularly young males, when the problems may be elsewhere is not right.

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quin direct going into administration by 'rich84' (13 Apr 2010 @ 14:32)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'DavyBoy' (13 Apr 2010 @ 15:35)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'rich84' (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'DavyBoy' (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:06)

Davy..... total TRIPE! by 'itpro' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:10)

itpro, not quite by 'michaelg36' (13 Apr 2010 @ 20:53)

Re: Davy..... total TRIPE! by 'PaulMRotax' (13 Apr 2010 @ 21:28)

Oh No Ian, Not TRIPE Ian... Not TRIPE at all ! by 'DavyBoy' (13 Apr 2010 @ 21:51)

Re: Oh No Ian, Not TRIPE Ian... Not TRIPE at all by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:04)

I haven't read most of this thread, but.... by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:38)

Re: I haven't read most of this thread, but.... by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 1:05)

...and the 'top hat' on it is as follows: by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 1:19)

...and the 'top hat' on it misses the point :-( by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 8:52)

Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:24)

Re: Davy by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:41)

experience by 'rich84' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:45)

Re: experience...... most amusing! by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:58)

Re: experience by 'SimonS' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)

Re: experience by '89cc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:16)

Re: experience by 'rich84' (14 Apr 2010 @ 13:58)

Re: experience by '89cc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:33)

Re: experience by '89cc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:37)

Re: Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:50)

OK. by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:45)

Persecution...... by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 12:55)

Re: Persecution...... by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 13:11)

Re: Persecution...... by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:44)

Re: Persecution...... by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:20)

Re: Persecution...... by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:31)

Re: Persecution...... by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:53)

Re: Persecution...... by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:03)

Re: Persecution...... by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:17)

Re: Persecution...... by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:00)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:08)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:20)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:09)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:21)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:24)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:35)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'DavyBoy' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:27)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:31)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:37)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:52)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:13)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:19)

Re: Persecution......Davy by 'davidmc' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:22)

I missed a bit..... by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:42)

...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'SimonS' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:19)

Simon by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:33)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:33)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:36)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:50)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'SimonS' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:43)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:56)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'brinjono' (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:29)

Re: ...and the 'top hat' on it hits the point :- by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 14:34)

Of course old people over forty have less..... by 'alanrr' (14 Apr 2010 @ 22:56)

Good old Alan...... by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 1:24)

Questions for you Ian ? by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:22)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:48)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:55)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:22)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:14)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:24)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:40)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:48)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 13:04)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:52)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:13)

Errrrr ...... Davy..... by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:34)

Re: Errrrr ...... Davy..... by 'DavyBoy' (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:21)

Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:19)

Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through by 'DavyBoy' (16 Apr 2010 @ 20:01)

Re: Errrrr ...... Davy....errr... think it through by 'itpro' (19 Apr 2010 @ 11:44)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:17)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:35)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'alanrr' (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:52)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? Harv by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:54)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'DavyBoy' << You are here!

Davy by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:25)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:34)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:48)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:59)

Dave... by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:55)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:04)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'Gillard77' (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:28)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 12:31)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:00)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'Gillard77' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:12)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:24)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'Gillard77' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:50)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:05)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:57)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:33)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:53)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:00)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'Gillard77' (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:04)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:12)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:22)

Re: Questions for you Ian ? by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 13:40)

Surely theres an easy solution? by 'TanglerTKM' (15 Apr 2010 @ 14:52)

Re: Surely theres an easy solution? by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:28)

Re: Surely theres an easy solution? by 'TanglerTKM' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:40)

Tangler by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:10)

Ooops.... typo! by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:12)

Re: Ooops.... typo! by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:11)

Re: Tangler by 'TanglerTKM' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:14)

Re: Tangler by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:41)

Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question) by 'TanglerTKM' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:32)

Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question) by 'Gillard77' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:43)

Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question) by 'TanglerTKM' (15 Apr 2010 @ 18:09)

Re: Tangler (and also..to answer your question) by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:48)

Re: Tangler...... by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:47)

Re: Tangler...... by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:21)

Re: Tangler...... by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:04)

Re: Tangler...... by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 11:09)

Re: Tangler...... by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 13:31)

Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2010 @ 14:22)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 15:12)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:03)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2010 @ 16:49)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:03)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:33)

Now who's being pedantic! by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:13)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'TanglerTKM' (16 Apr 2010 @ 19:06)

Re: Ian you're being pedantic again :P by 'itpro' (17 Apr 2010 @ 0:59)

Re: Good old Alan...... by 'alanrr' (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:45)

Re: Good old Alan...... by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 0:55)

continued by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:00)

Re: continued by 'alanrr' (17 Apr 2010 @ 21:49)

Re: continued by 'itpro' (19 Apr 2010 @ 20:43)

Re: continued by 'alanrr' (23 Apr 2010 @ 0:08)

Re: quin direct going into administration by '89cc' (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'rich84' (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:09)

Re: quin direct going into administration by '89cc' (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:13)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'jnrblue91' (13 Apr 2010 @ 16:40)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'FullCanRacer' (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:52)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'SAS' (13 Apr 2010 @ 17:57)

Re: quin direct going into administration by '89cc' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:58)

Full can........ by 'itpro' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:17)

Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,.... by 'itpro' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:12)

Re: Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,.... by 'mskart22' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:18)

Re: Come on Rich........ tell us the truth.,.,.... by 'itpro' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:23)

continued..... by 'itpro' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:33)

itpro by 'rich84' (13 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)

Re: itpro by 'mskart22' (13 Apr 2010 @ 20:42)

Re: itpro by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:27)

Here are some of the FACTS that you should know by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 0:53)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'rich84' (14 Apr 2010 @ 10:41)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:13)

Typo by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 11:14)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:18)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:35)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 15:44)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:00)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:10)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:16)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:27)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:21)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:07)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:45)

Re: Here are some of the FACTS that you should kno by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:06)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:11)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:40)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 16:59)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:17)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 17:32)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:09)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 18:19)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:21)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:39)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'itpro' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:50)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:55)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 21:29)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 11:13)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 16:19)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:05)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:08)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (16 Apr 2010 @ 9:37)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 19:58)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (14 Apr 2010 @ 20:09)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 20:14)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (14 Apr 2010 @ 21:35)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'itpro' (15 Apr 2010 @ 1:29)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'Doink' (15 Apr 2010 @ 9:12)

Re: quin direct going into administration by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 10:28)

what a beast of a thread by 'rich84' (15 Apr 2010 @ 14:30)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 15:24)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'Doink' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:06)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 17:54)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'Doink' (15 Apr 2010 @ 18:59)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'JoeKarter' (15 Apr 2010 @ 19:26)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:03)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'DavyBoy' (15 Apr 2010 @ 21:15)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:13)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'harvinsurrey' (15 Apr 2010 @ 22:16)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 1:12)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'DavyBoy' (16 Apr 2010 @ 8:11)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 12:13)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'DavyBoy' (16 Apr 2010 @ 17:39)

Davy.... a bit a 'OxyMoron' there! by 'itpro' (16 Apr 2010 @ 18:24)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'DavyBoy' (16 Apr 2010 @ 19:56)

Welll..... that's questionable..... by 'itpro' (17 Apr 2010 @ 1:10)

Re: what a beast of a thread by 'DavyBoy' (17 Apr 2010 @ 9:34)

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