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Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not
Posted by 'itpro' on 23 Mar 2010 @ 02:42

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But, David, we have HAD madated minimum ride heights before and it was utterly IMPOSSIBLE to regulate! They can only be measured accurately when the cars are in the pits.... Brabham, etc., made adjustable ride height suspension and raised the cars on the hydraulics on pit entry and lowered them again on the track. That was how we started with active ride-height maintenance on F1 cars.

I think Chapman showed that you could control the ride height by using anti-dive and anti-squat suspension back in the early 1970s which still seemed to allow a much more movement in a stationay car than actually was 'used' in motion.

What would prevent the teams from using a variably-pressurised shock absorber to act as a spring-rate stiffener that only moves to it's hardest settings once the car is on the move? The teams would only need to move from steel springing to compressed gas to give them the ability to alter the rates, dynamically. It wouldn't be THAT hard to make the shockers, effectively, pump-THEMSELVES-up (by 'work') to give the effect of super stiff springs which would not be directly dfetectable once the car had returned to the pits for 'measuring'.

If you want to limit the effects of downforce, why not simply limit the DOWNFORCE......? That would also solve the problems of 'following cars': your method still leaves the following cars too badly disturbed by 'turbulent' airflow.

Ian

Message Thread:

For the F1 Critics..... by 'Tmoon' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:10)

Re: For the F1 Critics..... by 'Traxtar' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:20)

Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:57)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 12:22)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 16:38)

Re: Traction control by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 18:51)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 19:27)

Re: Traction control by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 20:53)

Re: Traction control by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:10)

Re: Traction control by 'Bod' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:33)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:25)

If advertising space is essential... by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:30)

Re: If advertising space is essential... by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:54)

I think you have swollowed the line... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 0:15)

Re: I think you have swollowed the line... by 'Ballhatchet' (16 Mar 2010 @ 0:48)

Yes, adds are important, but... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 1:07)

think of it this way ... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 1:55)

Re: think of it this way ... by 'Ballhatchet' (16 Mar 2010 @ 9:30)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'richpudd2003' (15 Mar 2010 @ 12:32)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'bertie77' (15 Mar 2010 @ 13:13)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'rogergreen' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:48)

We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 10:13)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 10:49)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:09)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:18)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:23)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:44)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:47)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:56)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:10)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:09)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'Doink' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:38)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:57)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'Doink' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:03)

I got it!!!!!!! by 'Tmoon' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:32)

Re: I got it!!!!!!! by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:44)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:39)

Ban them but red bull would be OK by 'Shanny' (16 Mar 2010 @ 17:17)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'davidmc' (16 Mar 2010 @ 17:27)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'richpudd2003' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:05)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:16)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'richpudd2003' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:56)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:11)

300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish ! by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 23:11)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' (17 Mar 2010 @ 13:55)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'QuickOldTimer' (17 Mar 2010 @ 15:12)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:22)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'QuickOldTimer' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:52)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:59)

So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not .. by 'Chads' (19 Mar 2010 @ 8:02)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'jnrblue91' (19 Mar 2010 @ 9:37)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'itpro' (22 Mar 2010 @ 16:39)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'davidmc' (22 Mar 2010 @ 17:44)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'itpro' (22 Mar 2010 @ 18:47)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'davidmc' (22 Mar 2010 @ 18:59)

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