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Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT!
Posted by 'itpro' on 17 Mar 2010 @ 13:55

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I quote the figure that LOTUS claimed!

You are also WRONG asbout the entry speeds onto many of the straights, it's actually quite LOW! Take Bahrain:- the entry onto the long straight is quoted ar 128 KPH at which speed not a HUGE amount of downforce is generated; witness the cornering G of only 2.34.

The Malaysian GP's equivalent is only EIGHTY FOUR KPH with a cornering G of 2.54. And there's B*GG*R ALL downforce at THAT speed and the G is STILL as high as on the start of the straight at Bahrain.

I can repeat that throughout the world ..... but I never claimed 300mph at ALL the circuits, so what would be the point?!

So..... as you can see, with around 2.5g being able to be developed by an F1 car BEFORE the wings are provide much downforce then it's almost CERTAIN that a wingless (ultra low down force) F1 car would leave the Malaysian 'corner-before-the-straight' at the SAME speed as a CURRENT F1 car! The current terminal speed at Malaysia is 300 kph.

After that, in ultralow downforce configuration, it is OFTEN quoted that the F1 car will hit well over 400 KPH within the length of a straight! Hence my claim of 300mph, with development!

Damn it! A LeMans car of 1989 hit 399KPH in qualifying and that was STILL with 'wings'.

2nd Damn it! During the V10 era... F1 cars hit TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY ONE MPH at Monza...... and that was WITH a high (ish) downforce compared to a car with NO wings!

Given a couple of years with 'no wings and no underbody downforce' (and the current levels of power) I have NO doubt that our F1 designers would manage 300mph (around 480 kph) WITH EASE!

Ian

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For the F1 Critics..... by 'Tmoon' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:10)

Re: For the F1 Critics..... by 'Traxtar' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:20)

Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 11:57)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 12:22)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 16:38)

Re: Traction control by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 18:51)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 19:27)

Re: Traction control by 'QuickOldTimer' (15 Mar 2010 @ 20:53)

Re: Traction control by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:10)

Re: Traction control by 'Bod' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:33)

Re: Traction control by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:25)

If advertising space is essential... by 'Chads' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:30)

Re: If advertising space is essential... by 'Ballhatchet' (15 Mar 2010 @ 23:54)

I think you have swollowed the line... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 0:15)

Re: I think you have swollowed the line... by 'Ballhatchet' (16 Mar 2010 @ 0:48)

Yes, adds are important, but... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 1:07)

think of it this way ... by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 1:55)

Re: think of it this way ... by 'Ballhatchet' (16 Mar 2010 @ 9:30)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'richpudd2003' (15 Mar 2010 @ 12:32)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'bertie77' (15 Mar 2010 @ 13:13)

Re: Ban all wings and aero aids.. by 'rogergreen' (15 Mar 2010 @ 22:48)

We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 10:13)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 10:49)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:09)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:18)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:23)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:44)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:47)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 11:56)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:10)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:09)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'Doink' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:38)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'DavyBoy' (16 Mar 2010 @ 13:57)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'Doink' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:03)

I got it!!!!!!! by 'Tmoon' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:32)

Re: I got it!!!!!!! by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:44)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'bertie77' (16 Mar 2010 @ 12:39)

Ban them but red bull would be OK by 'Shanny' (16 Mar 2010 @ 17:17)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'davidmc' (16 Mar 2010 @ 17:27)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'richpudd2003' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:05)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:16)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'richpudd2003' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:56)

Re: We couldn't simply 'ban wings' safely by 'itpro' (16 Mar 2010 @ 20:11)

300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish ! by 'Chads' (16 Mar 2010 @ 23:11)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' << You are here!

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'QuickOldTimer' (17 Mar 2010 @ 15:12)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:22)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'QuickOldTimer' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:52)

Re: 300 mph ..!! ..Rubbish !...... NOT! by 'itpro' (18 Mar 2010 @ 12:59)

So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not .. by 'Chads' (19 Mar 2010 @ 8:02)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'jnrblue91' (19 Mar 2010 @ 9:37)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'itpro' (22 Mar 2010 @ 16:39)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'davidmc' (22 Mar 2010 @ 17:44)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'itpro' (22 Mar 2010 @ 18:47)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'davidmc' (22 Mar 2010 @ 18:59)

Re: So Ian, do you still feel the wings could not by 'itpro' (23 Mar 2010 @ 2:42)

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