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Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.
Posted by 'itpro' on 12 Mar 2009 @ 10:33


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itpro
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More rubbish, Dave:-

"What I said was that the CHANGE in that number that will be achieved by vigorous enforcement of the speed limits will be low"

...and PRECISELY how much reduction ('change in that number') in murders occured by the HUGE expenses of the Rachel Nickell, Ripper, West, Hindley, etc. investigations????

Do I need to run through the same question foir EACH of my examples.....?

Secondly, how much of the DROP from 3500 per year to 2950 has been CAUSED by the semi-rigorous anti-speed campaign of recent years.... of which you are dismissive?

Thirdly, how come the EXACT same approach has WORKED for drink-driving, and I suspect you now SUPPORT that 'push'? Would you tell us that all the expenditure on THAT campaign has been a waste of maney becasue you COULD (and may even have done so) applied the IDENTICAL argument against the breathalyser: 'too much money for too little gain'. There were MILLIONS who DID claim that at the time.... do you STILL want to calim it?

Ian

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Government to lower speed limit  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 13:26)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'KevinW'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 13:42)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 14:20)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'Tmoon'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 14:33)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'kai'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:03)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:16)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'itpro'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:27)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:24)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:31)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'DavyBoy'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:51)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'TanglerTKM'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 20:09)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 21:49)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'TanglerTKM'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 0:13)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 17:45)
Errr..... dan  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 18:13)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 18:26)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:45)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 0:36)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 3:13)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 21:51)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 17:47)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (18 Mar 2009 @ 21:13)
Re: Errr..... dan  by 'DanTheK1RaceGearMan'   (19 Mar 2009 @ 8:26)
Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 10:08)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 11:08)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 11:17)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 12:38)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 12:57)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 13:46)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 15:05)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 15:47)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 16:05)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 16:28)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 16:52)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 9:21)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 10:42)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:53)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 13:40)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 21:37)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:31)
Re: Davy..... that ALSO is planned!  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 14:37)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'itpro'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:10)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'Traxtar'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:28)
Errrrr..... no thought there for Traxstar....  by 'itpro'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:41)
Re: Errrrr..... no thought there for Traxstar....  by 'MattScott'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:56)
Re: Errrrr..... no thought there for Traxstar....  by 'Traxtar'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:23)
Re: Errrrr..... no thought there for Traxstar....  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 10:32)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'tsp'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:32)
TSP  by 'itpro'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:44)
Re: TSP  by 'tsp'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:18)
Re: TSP  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 10:10)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 15:54)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'mobilechicane'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 16:49)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'JRed'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 21:54)
Jred  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 10:22)
Re: Jred  by 'JRed'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 11:29)
Re: Jred  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 13:32)
Re: Jred  by 'MattScott'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 13:59)
Re: Jred  by 'JRed'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 14:10)
Re: Jred  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 14:49)
Re: Jred  by 'JRed'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 15:37)
Re: Jred  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 16:11)
Re: Jred  by 'JRed'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 16:45)
Re: Jred  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 17:04)
Errrr...... David.....  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 10:14)
Re: Errrr...... Ian.....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 12:37)
Re: Errrr...... David.... this is silly!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 13:12)
Re: Errrr...... Ian.... this is silly!  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 14:21)
Re: Errrr...... Ian.... this is silly!  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 14:53)
Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 18:54)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 18:58)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 20:13)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'TanglerTKM'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 21:20)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 21:53)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'kudos'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 22:54)
Re: Perhaps I'll vote BNP....  by 'TanglerTKM'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 23:16)
Tangler  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 10:56)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'PaulMRotax'   (09 Mar 2009 @ 22:19)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'itpro'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 11:20)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'TeamKermit'   (10 Mar 2009 @ 14:34)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'Farrang'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 0:09)
wahey! A voice of reason!....  by 'vic'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 8:45)
... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 9:08)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:14)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:35)
Try explaining!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:42)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:57)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 13:35)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'DavidG'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 19:39)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:33)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'DavidG'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:52)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'DavyBoy'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 21:51)
Re: Try explaining!  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 3:03)
Time for an argument !  by 'DavyBoy'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 14:31)
re: ... wrong  by 'Farrang'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 23:22)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'davidmc'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:33)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'itpro'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 11:49)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'davidmc'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 13:25)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (11 Mar 2009 @ 19:59)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 0:25)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'Farrang'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 0:47)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 8:27)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'KenE'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 8:54)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'vic'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 9:01)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:03)
But, Dave.....  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:15)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'itpro'  << You are here!
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'QuickOldTimer'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:46)
Re: ... or more like theoretical idealism.  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 18:13)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 6:44)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'KenE'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:17)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'itpro'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 10:39)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'PaulMRotax'   (12 Mar 2009 @ 12:59)
Re: Government to lower speed limit  by 'itpro'   (16 Mar 2009 @ 13:49)
skid pad!  by 'FullCanRacer'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 18:15)
Re: skid pad!  by 'michaelg36'   (14 Mar 2009 @ 18:17)

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