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Re: GX200 Pro Extreme
Posted by 'Andyb' on 13 Feb 2014 @ 18:45

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We'll heres my thoughts aswell,

'The 200s will always be equal...'

# nope, never been achieved in any formula I have ever come across. Close performance maybe but equal... never!
**You know what he mean'nt, a great effort has gone into getting the engines as 'close' as practically possible. The window of engine performance will be significantly closer than of the Gx160 standard/SP era.

'The 200s are equalised by adjusting the ignition timing and then sealed in 4 places - crank cover, flywheel cover, head and carb'.

# all sealing does is cost the diyer.If you know anything about the Gx engines you will know how the valves need keeping on top of for best performance. It's as daft as paying for a rotax dealer to change a piston ring

-and as for seals being inpenetrable... not for long, again ask rotax owners how they feel about the seal!
** There has to be a control in place so the engine cannot be altered from output set by RPM, unfortunate for the diyer, yes, but theres not many diyer's left(and I am one, but the advantages outweigh the disadvantages in my opinion). As previously said before when was the last time a diy engine was running regular at the front against the top SP engines. As for the seal being forged and engine tampered, RPM are happy to test/check out any suspect engines.

Once your engine needs to be retuned to be serviced, RPM will reset the power and torque outputs back to the original figure, lets call it 7.1hp. Even if, once rebuilt, this engine produces 6.5hp or 8.5hp it will be adjusted so that when it leaves RPM is is back to 7.1hp - equal with every other engine.
# see below + quoting a figure is pointless when it's the area under the curve that decides the usefulness of an engine on the track.
** Fair point, but still will be closer than the gap between std/SP 160 engines.

For certain events Roger will have his portable dyno for anyone who wishes to question a competitors engine. If the engine produces too much power they are DSQ, simple.
# here's the facts... Roger's workshop dyno cost many times more than his travelling dyno.
So... if an engine is set up on the workshop dyno, when first built for sale and then checked on the travelling dyno, the readings may well differ.
If this difference causes a DSQ then you may feel badly treated.
**I was told me more than one engine would be tested on the day, so that would take into account weather conditions/dyno readout variation between the two. Also all he needs to do is bring a benchmark engine along as a standard. I can't see how you can be DSQ'd if the engine has not been tampered with in any way.

Its obvious you dislike the idea Brian, I think we need to let drivers decide for themselves. We've had all the negatives you can throw at it to try and de-rail the series. Do you have any positive thoughts at all about the series?
Time will tell, but the 160 grid was'nt a happy place because of the SP scenario. Yes there were other ways of dealing with it but nobody did. We shall see how it all works out.

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