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Re: Formula Blue top v the Green top --The Facts
Posted by 'FlyingCarpet' on 02 Dec 2011 @ 22:25

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The dyno findings were interesting, but none the less they are only the findings of a dyno on a certain day, you cannot reproduce track conditions on a dyno, nor can it tell you why motor A, which on paper & dyno readouts is identical to motor B, but when driven B had a little more mid, so is slightly better suited &is consistently 1tenth quicker than motor A.
Formula Blue The Facts!! Shame there from your perspective only!!
Simon S stated that he hasn't witnessed any unfair advantage by Green top motors over Blue tops, I agree. The only results I've seen also are the best drivers on Blue/Green top motors winning races!!!
So here are some facts for you to chew on, they are from my perspective only though, but do feel free to check results online As the stopwatch never lies.....
Not sure where the 8 second a lap difference comes from that the last post mentioned look down to the Septemner round at Clay, the lap times of the top four drivers, a mix of Blue & Maxi were separated by 3x100ths of a second

Duncan McLeod (Maxi) seeded no2
Paul Johns (Blue) seeded no9
Ian Bramfield (Maxi) seeded no3
Kevin Ford (Blue /Maxi) seeded 6
Russell Oneill (Blue)
Chris Derrick (Blue)

All the above are top drivers who have won many
races/championships even before the advent of the Maxi engine

27Feb Dunkeswell:
1st Chris Derrick Blue top (F lap)
2nd D McLeod maxi
3rd K Ford. Blue
4th R Oneill. Blue
5th P Johns Blue
6th D Goode Blue

17 April Llandow
1st Chris Derrick blue top (F lap + won all 3 heats & Final)
2nd Ian Bramfield. Maxi
3rd D McLeod. Maxi
4th Paul Johns. Blue

1st May Forest Edge
1st Chris Derrick. Blue top
2nd Mark Wilde. Maxi
3rd Ian Bramfield Maxi
4th P Johns. Blue

29th May Dunkeswell
1st Chris Derrick. Blue top (F lap+ won all 3 heats & Final)
2nd D McLeod. Maxi
3rd I Bramfield. Maxi

12 June Clay Pigeon
1st D McLeod. Maxi
2nd K Ford. Maxi
3rd P Johns. Blue
4th R S/Stones. Blue
5th I Bramfield. Maxi
DNF C Derrick lap 3 Bluetop (Retired whilst leading race)

3rd July Forest edge
1st C Copeland. Blue (F Lap)
2nd C Derrick. Blue
3rd Ian Bramfield. Maxi
4th M Wilde. Maxi
5th D McLeod. Maxi

11th September Clay Pigeon
1st C Derrick. Blue
2nd L Phillips. Maxi
3rd I Bramfield. Maxi
4th K Ford. Maxi
5th P Johns. Blue ( lap times for top 4 drivers was 3, 100ths second difference)

16 October Llandow
1st C Derrick. Blue top ( won all 3 heats & Final)
2nd I Bramfield. Maxi
3rd P Johns. Blue

13th November Clay Pigeon (Mathew Percy Memorial Meeting)
1st C Derrick Blue top (won all 3 heats & Final)
2nd D McLeod. Maxi
3rd P Johns. Blue
4th R Shone. Maxi
5th D Goode. Blue
So make what you will of these true race results from the top blue southern drivers, (not dyno runs)
Having raced against some of these drivers for years, they were quick when they were skinny & they are still quick albeit a bit lumpier!!
So Green tops can be beaten & as Simon S says Blue drivers who can't win against a green top should maybe admit they were not beaten by a better motor, but a better DRIVER

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